Amandha Vollmer Discusses Coffee Enemas on Woodstock Radio

You, you, I’m sure there could be a museum on the different formats and types that were created from all kinds of inventions and inventive ideas. Some were just injected with syringe type of things, and some were used [00:10:00] with the tubes. Right. Now, how, in the bags did Gerson come up with coffee?

Well, Gerson didn’t invent it. Gerson just re-identified with it because this happened as an invention of necessity in World War I the German medical units, they couldn’t get supplies and the nurses noticed the coffee, you sitting on the stove, brewing on the stove and the soldiers were in so much pain, they couldn’t get the pain medication And being German they are very creative of mine being half German myself, I know if I have to look at something and find a way, I’ll find a way.

Right. Being an inventive mind. Right. They they knew that it was a stimulant of some sort, so they just went for it. The nurses just put it in the enema bags and gave them the enemas and they found pain relief after that. Right. And then there were in the thirties, a bunch of scientist, well, in the twenties, a bunch of scientists that studied it.

and those studies got written [00:11:00] up like it was actually about 1917 when we first see it appear like in, in the modern era, if you will. And it was actually in the Merck Manual until 1972. Oh, wow. As a regular treatment for pain and all kinds of things. And then in 72, they decided they needed profits more than that.

Exactly. Yeah. We know. Wow. That’s what I mean. It’s like we’ve lost the things that were a regular standard procedure and helpful. And then he, Gerson found this and he started to employ it in the thirties in his patients. And that’s, so he had read those studies that were done on it and he did it as a retention enema holding it for 15 And what’s amazing is he, through his own study and noticing what was going on with patients, when he first started to employ the coffee enemas, he lost about five of his patients. They died because he realized in these TB and cancer patients are the ones he was working with the most, [00:12:00] he realized that they were so toxic that when the coffee enema was employed and the body began to detox, it required a higher level of nutrition in order to do that.

And he hadn’t realized that at that point. And that’s when the juicing began. At that. After that, he realized that the nutrition had to change. So it is recommended for people who are using these enemas regularly for intense disease healing, to make sure that the nutrition levels are high with high amounts of juicing.

There’s 13 juices in the Gerson therapy that are taken throughout the day now some of the detox that you recommended with the supplements., you know, my husband Joe doesn’t have many teeth, so, you know, we do juicing. But you had coenzyme Q 10 and you had pcc. Can you explain what those two are and can they be duplicated with juice?

Well, your food will, depending on where it’s coming from and where it’s grown, we’ll [00:13:00] have certain levels of nutrients, but unfortunately most of what we’re getting is are grown in soils that are either synthetically, fertilized, or they are depleted of a lot of minerals.. And we’ve gotten into this supplement mess because we’re not getting basic levels of nutrition through the soil.

And what were the, what was the first one you said? I didn’t quite hear. Uh, Coenzyme Q10, I think it is. And then what was the other one you said? PQQ.. Oh yeah. They’re derivatives of each other. The p the PQQ is perlo quinone. It’s a horrible name yeah. But it is a critical role across a law, a huge range of life functions.

It’s an ultra pott antioxidant. It has a huge defense against mitochondrial delay decay, because the thing is, what is mitochondrial decay? Well, both CoQ10 and PQQ affect the mitochondria and the energy [00:14:00] that they produce and the mitochondria in each cell. What we’re seeing now is a lot of mitochondrial diseases that we never saw before.

Now, from my high school biology, I remember mitochondria is the part of the cell that produces energy. Correct. Okay. Yeah. So if, so, if a person is cleaning up and they’re feeling the mitochondria is kicking in, they’ll feel more energy. Yeah. You can think of a mitochondria as your factories. Of your, of any system.

Okay and the factories are producing atp, they’re producing energy, and of course with that they’re producing waste. And in any given cell, you’ll have on average about a hundred different mitochondria running the show. And a cell will not die unless it’s really. Far past a certain point and is triggered through apoptosis, which is programed cell death to go through that procedure of being engulfed or fago sighted by another cell and recycled, et cetera.

Otherwise, cells really do hang around for quite [00:15:00] some time, and if they are at half master, they’re half functioning, say maybe 50% of that cell has mitochondria that are working optimally, the cell can still live. However, it’s not working very well. And then if you have issues of nutrition, you have a high sodium intake and a low potassium intake.

That’s something that Gerson found was a huge problem because sodium’s not supposed to be inside the cell if it’s inside the cell. The cell will swell, you’ll get edema, he’ll get cellular edema, you’ll open. Okay. Now would that be the membrane’s responsibility to remove it?

Cause I remember when I was videotaping Bruce Lipton, he was saying a lot of people think that the intelligence of the cell is in the nucleus in the dna, but it’s actually the membrane that decides what goes in and out.

Well, it’s like saying, You know, it’s not really your finger, individual fingers that are important. It’s your hand. They’re all important. Yeah. And I get it. I get the point of what Bruce Lipton’s work is excellent. And I understand yes, the [00:16:00] membrane is a brain is like an electrical aspect and is vital.

Is absolutely vital. And it is the door, it is the gatekeeper of what comes in and goes out. Right. But yes, sure. So if too much sodium goes in the cell, isn’t there a sodium pump that gets it out of the cell? It’s supposed to, but if you don’t have enough pet potassium, then it won’t do that. And then it’ll accumulate inside the cell.

So the potassium is necessary for the sodium pump to work. Correct. And if the sodium doesn’t go out of the cell, then you have calcification build. You’ll have all kinds of problems. Where does calcium there? Because now you don’t have proper cell potential and the water will go with the sodium. And not just that.

Sodium will attract a lot of other toxins. Like, you know, calcium will come with it. There’ll be other attachments happening. Well, now there a second. Calcium’s not a toxin per se, it’s just when it’s in the wrong location. Wrong location. Yep. Okay, so then that would explain arthritis. Arthritis is part and parcel.

Yes. [00:17:00] And it’s thick sludgy blood that’s inflamed, chronically uhhuh. And so the blood is not the right viscosity and it’s sedentary and it’s creating deposits in the joints mainly. Okay. And it’s basically thick, inflamed, sludgy blood is your arthritis. Now I was looking at, I think we read the same thing about Borax with Walter last he was citing epidemiological studies where there’s a lot of boron and he said, is Israel or Palestine, you know, the Middle East there has a lot of boron and they have a very low incidence of arthritis. Well, that’s a major anti-inflammatory mineral. And when you’re mineralized properly, and especially those that are keeping the blood at the right viscosity because it’s keeping the inflammatory markers out of the blood you’re gonna have thinner or more flowing blood.

I see.

And you’re not gonna have those deposits. So Yeah, absolutely. Lauren is key mineral for that. And also for bone health too, and for delivery of a lot of things. Now what about magnesium along with the [00:18:00] boron?

Yeah, magnesium is, everyone that I come in contact with will leave with a bottle of topical magnesium because Topical, yeah, I don’t because you don’t absorb magnesium very well through the gut.

Oh, really? No. Maybe 30% on a good day of whatever your dose is. And it’s just not enough what we’re getting, not from the soil, right? Like again, we’re talking from damage. We’re, we’ve damaged the earth, we’ve damaged the soils. We’re not getting the levels of magnesium we would get normally through our healthy food eating and then add on junk and everything else, and stress onto it.

And we’re burning through. So what do you do? Put it with DMSO or you can i, it is the one that I love is a very brilliant design. It’s a magnesium. Chloride hexahydrate. And it is designed in such a way it doesn’t provide that itch, cause a lot of magnesium oil that people use topically gives that itchy skin and they don’t like that.

Oh yeah. But this one’s designed so it doesn’t do that. Even though I’ve tried another magnesium chloride hexahydrate before, and it [00:19:00] did give me an itch. So somehow the way that this company activation products, this ease product it’s called, doesn’t do that.

And this is the one that I support and use often.

I use it twice a day. On where do you put it? Like on your stomach or Over My thyroid. Over my chest. Oh, over my stomach. Some days it’s my legs. I just rotate. Really. It’s great for restless legs it’s really soothing to muscles it’s great for pain. If I do get a headache of any sort, then I make sure I put that on my temples and on my back.

Oh really? For a headache? Yeah. Oh yeah. It soothes pain because it’s gonna soothe the muscle if the muscle is contracted and causing stress and pain to the rest of your bones and so forth and or inflammation is very anti-inflammatory. Dr. Carolyn Dean is an expert on magnesium.

She talks a lot about it.

She has her own form of magnesium glycinate form that is an oral type. And, but it’s better absorbed and it doesn’t lead to the loose bowel that a high dose magnesium would do. And you can use it for that. I mean, if you’re constipated, you can use high dose magnesium to get [00:20:00] things rolling.

Wow. What if you have the opposite problem? You don’t wanna be too much diarrhea. Yeah. That’s why I like it, topical cause then you can get high doses and you don’t get loose bowel. I see. Now if you didn’t have loose bowels, could you put that in the coffee enema? Would that be a good way to deliver it?

You I wouldn’t use that. It might sting too much. Oh, I see. I don’t see it as being totally necessary, although potassiums used in the enemas because it’s a good, it does get delivered that way. For any type of issue around releasing bile and releasing toxins through the bile.

Okay, let’s talk about that.

The bile and the release of bile and maybe I can even edit in pictures afterwards., I’d like to learn, I’d like to know, and for you to go into detail what exactly is happening in the colon and the way the bile ducts empty into the colon, and how those bile ducts are related to the liver and the kidneys so that they’re kind of given a break in the detoxification process.

[00:21:00] Well, the main thing to understand about coffee enemas is it’s not a colon cleanse. The colon cleanse aspect of it is a happy side effect but there’s beneficial aspects to having your colon cleaned out. Obviously, get rid of parasites. You increase the peristalsis, which is the normal squeezing movement of the intestinal tract.

That will slough off any calcifications or any greasy aspects or stool that is impacted in there. It will knock that all out, right? Any enema will give you that aspect, but the main. Part of using a coffee enema is for the detox of the liver and the blood. And what is happening there is in the colon and liver, you’re getting respectfully in, in the liver, you’re getting 600% in the colon, you’re getting 700% of an increase of an enzyme called glutathione S-transferase.

And that is, oh, I love those words when you throw ’em around., you like my big words, eh? Yes. No, that’s exactly [00:22:00] what it was. I was reading that or listening to you or something. I wanted to learn more about glu th glutathione S-transferase. Okay. And anything with an a on the end is an enzyme. Okay. And this is a potent detox enzyme, and it really grabs on to all kinds of things like free radicals, for one example.

It will, it’s called an electro file. It means that Uh, electrophile sequestered. An electrophile is like a free radical it’s a, it’s like a crazy cell running around causing havoc because it is, it’s an unpaired cell that needs a pair. And if you understand chemistry, everything wants to be in a stable octet, which is a stable eight.

If it’s a seven, it wants to find a one of an electron to become a stable character. But if it’s just an open-ended one, it wants to find a partner and it will just take it randomly from anything and cause another one from that [00:23:00] and another havoc, and it is known in cancers, it’s seen in a lot of disease.

We have a free radical issue and., those are called electro files. And the pate or P acid is the, one of the main aspects, it’s actually called Cato pate. That’s in the coffee, that is the precursor to the glutathione S-transferase production. And when that happens, you get no, just slow down just a second.

, when does the body naturally produce this and how does it do it? And if it’s sloughing off, how does the coffee kick it up? Cuz you say it’s a component for the process, but the raw material itself is what Well glutathione is, well, is a well loved antioxidant in the liver. And it is, so the liver part of a if you’re in a perfect world and you’re not stressed out and your liver’s doing things right, then it’s just producing it.

It produces glutathione, which does these, the job of cleaning up the liver. Okay. [00:24:00] Getting her to toxins and dumping it out through the bile. Yeah. Okay. And there’s normal pathways, and I don’t wanna get too deep into the biochemistry of it but it is part of a sulfation and methylation pathway as well, so it gets a little more complicated than that.

Okay. But we see this a lot in autism, by the way, where the glutathione stores are really low. They’re not sulf sulf using their sulfur properly they’re not methylating properly. And that’s a form of tagging., which is all part of communication inside the body. And we see it in autoimmune diseases and heart disease and colitis and all kinds of neurodegenerative conditions like MS.

And Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, et cetera. You see all of these oxidation issues like excessive oxidation of tissue and all of these. Precursors, if you will, or all of these pathways are involved in a very fine communication to pass off these electrons and make sure everything’s where it needs to be.

And if [00:25:00] something is in there that shouldn’t be, it will take it out. And it really starts at methionine and goes down to homocystine and then to glutathione. And there’s, they’re all, they even make our newer transmitters. So it’s a huge. No I could see it’s complicated cause on one hand I can see the free radical, the idea and the oxidation messing up processes, but at the same time, Warberg was also talking about how important ozone is or oxygen and cancer and oxygen can’t survive next to each other.

Well, Dr. Otto Warburg was amazing in the understanding of his observation that when cancer cells are they don’t like the presence of oxygen and it’s creating an acidic solution and you’re not getting a proper type of communication to the rest of cells. Right? It walls itself off in this way.

The problem is you can’t just simply add oxygen. It doesn’t work that way. Yeah. Once it’s past a certain point, which was to his own sadness to see that, [00:26:00] he’s like, oh, a simple solution should be just to add oxygen. Everyone should be cured. Right, right. But it didn’t work like that because once the cells start to form their own mind and create their own systems it’s just producing a whole array of toxins and you’ll never just catch up doing it.

Now it’s a good adjunct. Definitely to go along with it like I was showing with my molecular enhancer, cause that’ll ozonate the blood. It’s good to add that in. You don’t, you wanna try to stop the process, but reversing it takes a different approach generally and getting the glutathione up to that level, you are really cleaning up the junk.

You’re getting all of that, like that’s a huge increase and Yeah. 700% yes. Well, 700, yeah. 600 to 700% depending on the location. You’re getting it. Gonna get pain relief in the body. You’re going to get that bile, the bile ducts actually expand and it triggers the expansion of the bile ducts.

And when that happens, it’s not just the bile gets remade and everything, which does happen cause bile [00:27:00] recycles and it will carry toxins so it will get dumped and remade. So that’s what aspect that’s positive, but because it’s stimulating through the hemorrhoidal vein into the portal vein that whole process is actually kind of washing the blood because the blood volume goes through the liver every three minutes and this is a retention ENM of up to 15 minutes.

You’re really washing out that blood quite a number of times. And with the dilation of the gallbladder, the bile ducts rather, that is going to help exc. Excretion of those toxins. And that’s what you, that’s what you’re after, right? That’s the point of the coffee enemas is to clean up all that debris in the blood and all of the successful cancer therapies that you see like ecac like rice discussion and like, Hoy formula.

These ideas are really all blood cleansers, all the botanicals and everything. They’re blood cleansers, they’re cleaning toxicity. Because if you have these free radicals and toxic [00:28:00] waste dumps, it’s like we talked about the factories of the cell. And imagine what would happen if you’re running all these factories and then nobody decided to pick up garbage anymore, right?

Like, what would that look like? Would be horrible, right? You’d have so much waste, you’d be stepping over it. Body has to get rid of it. And if your areas, your organs of waste, your kidneys, your liver, your lungs, your skin are not functioning by getting that out., right? Or they don’t have enough nutrition to do the job, or they’re overwhelmed by way too much production of waste.

That’s when you get tumors forming to just shove that away somewhere. And those tumors then kind of get more and more disease because what happens with, you know, feted waste, it just ro rots more and you get more bacteria going to that area. Fungus wants to go and eat that stuff. You get all kinds of parasite hosts interested in that material because that’s what they’re designed to do.

They’re designed to break down damage and dead and dying [00:29:00] tissue, and everybody gets the it all mixed up. They’ll say, oh, well, virus causes it, or bacteria causes it or fungus causes it, or cancers fungus or it’s a parasite that causes it. It’s like, dude, no, that came after the diseased tissue is already there.

Or that. Wouldn’t be invited in. It wouldn’t be able to go in. Even your defenses would be too strong. It’s the chicken and egg. They got that going backward, right? So the tumors are like little garbage cans. Garbage cans that the body’s setting up. So as this detoxification takes place, then there’s less garbage to put in the garbage cans.

Then pretty soon the body with its bacteria, fungus or whatever, just says, well, we don’t need these garbage cans anymore. And then they just gracefully go away. Exactly. You’re dissolving it away and you’re allowing the body to do the job of cleanup and it will, won’t need, the somatid’s won’t need to keep creating the bacteria and fungal forms that are endemic to, to do.

To [00:30:00] get rid of that and the energy will be there to do it. And that’s why you want the high nutrition and you want to also fix some metabolism because what happens with all this garbage is you’re messing around with your electrical system. So that’s why the cell potential gets all messed up. And your thyroid, your adrenals, theyit all haywire too.

And that’s the thing. You’ll say, well, why can’t I just drink the coffee or whatever.

It’s like, well, guess what? When you go through the digestive tract, it is absorbed completely different and it triggers an adrenal reaction, an adrenal response. That’s the whole alert aspect of it. In fact, with coffee enemas is usually you feel more relaxed.

Oh yeah. You get the opposite effect of it. Yeah. And you feel calm and when you’re coming top down, you’re hyper. And so it does make a difference which hole you put it in. And actually, if you were to take the amount, like say you did the volume that you would do directly orally, it would kill you.

Yeah. Because that is just going to hyper stimulate your organs and what, or your adrenals. And when your adrenals are [00:31:00] hyper stimulated, they’ll start to hip affect your thyroid and your pituitary glands, your whole adrenal hpa hypothalamus pituitary axis.

And you will, your metabolism will go way off and you’ll be a stress mess and you’ll be so acidic as well.

I mean, that’s just death, coffee, drinking coffee is not healthy because of that that’s amazing. Now, Dr. Lawrence Wilson also talks about two other kinds of ways to get coffee, where you just hold it in your mouth, you don’t drink it. And then the others in the vagina. Do you have any comments about either of those?

Well, I know he has like, even penis and vagina coffee enemas and I just, that’s amazing what he’s doing, but I doubt a million dollars that I’m gonna ever enco be able to encourage anyone to do that practically when it’s that, that hard to get anyone just to do a basic coffee enema, that’s pretty easy to do.

To me that’s not practical and usually not so much necessary. And I haven’t really even looked [00:32:00] at it too much. But I get it. Understand it, it’s a triggering of these big chemicals. Right? Well, well I, you know, I was so enthused. I did it. Oh, cool. Well, you’re, but you’re unique Falla. I know.

I’m really gung-ho, but what really interested me, he was talking a lot about sexual trauma.. And well see, here’s the thing. This morning I woke up and I just felt negativity, you know?, it just, sometimes you just feel ugh and you don’t know if it’s in you or outta you or what the deal is.

And I said, well, you know, I’m never done for a day. And I tried to do one back to back, which is what I did this morning.. And he says that you can go longer than 15 minutes, so, you know, hold it as up to an hour., so, you know, I can relax. Maybe I listen to some mantras and then

I have an impulse, you know, like to release it like you wanna go to the bathroom that’s what you have to sort of, he said it, it’s, he said just the very act of holding it in is a type of a Chikang exercise.

So since it’s been a couple weeks and [00:33:00] I’ve mastered that part, I could lie there.

And then there’s this pulsing. That’s why I wanted you to go into the detail that you did about the bile ducts expanding, because it really makes sense with what my experience is. The first impulse will be, oh, you know, I wanna poop this out. But then when, you know, I keep my consciousness nice and steady and when that passes and immediately after that passes, there’s like this pulsation of this beautiful, wonderful relief and relaxation that can go all the way up to my neck if I have neck pain.

It feels like that is is dissolving so it, the vagina’s not as dramatic, but I do notice as the weeks go on, that it’s almost like cancer launches you. And then when you go on that way, you start to feel healing on so many other levels. I’m starting to have just beautiful feelings and [00:34:00] enthusiasms and psychological outlook of such improvement that I haven’t had since I was decades younger.

You know that enthusiasm you have when you’re gonna go out and meet life and you’re gonna yes, accomplish all the things you wanna accomplish, so that even though gloomier information is coming on, because you know the fires in California and we got ran across this thing about the CIA mind control program and a lot of missing pieces are coming into the puzzle.

And even though I can see in the past, I think it was, they call cognitive dissonance, you don’t let information in and because it’s too painful, but if it is information that completes the picture, you’re always gonna be kind of half Cox.

So as this grizzly information came in, because I was feeling better and better, it was like the body’s teaching me, the body’s going, look it, if you can heal your body like [00:35:00] this, you can heal the society.

you know, it’s, and it’s important with the disease. Understanding the disease is a force. Now, if we get into energy and we get into Chinese medicine, understanding there’s a disease force within us and the disease force, when that’s taken hold it’s an entire mind body emotional. It’s all on all layers.

It’s not just a physical, in fact, the physical’s kind of usually the last manifestation of the disease force, right? It’s coming from, as we, we discussed last time in Germany, new medicine, right? It’s coming from a conflict shock or an emotional issue of some sort, or even something that’s unresolved maybe from past lives or a energetic transfer that’s happened, whatever it may be.

But that’s a force. There’s a force in there, right? And doing something that’s a bit like doing the vaginal coffee. implant is different, right? It’s not hitting the liver, it’s the lymphatic system that it’s affecting more. Right, right, right. It’s totally actually bypassing the liver. And, but it [00:36:00] tends, you’re now talking about the effect on channels central channels and moving energy and energy in the body and, right.

If there’s been a sexual abuse history, then that’s an application. It’s, we’re talking more on the energetics of it and you know, there’s the governor channels down the center in, in the front that and the conception, sorry, the conception vessel down the front and the governing vessel down the back.

And these are going to assist the wellbeing of that individual by clearing the channels. And maybe you can’t get acupuncture done or whatever. And this is another way of doing it. And I know it’s a whole pelvic floor area and it’s a stringent and it’s all the reflexes and the muscles and then that’s your chakra point.

Back to that chakra point, which I would argue that enemas would also affect. Right. But in, this is a, now we’re talking more energetic approach to using coffee and what that the coffee must have some effect on the energetic level cause [00:37:00] basically after a couple hours that negativity was gone.

you know, great. And it could have, you know, it could have set me off for not such a great day, you know, cuz you do one thing not so good. And then the other thing not so good. And when you do it when it affects the liver with the coffee enema, it is, can bring out an expression of anger because liver is a seat of anger.

Right.

And it will trigger liver detox. And I often find with people who have a lot of liver buildup and they go through detoxes, that they’ll get anger or anger, fire, like rising, like anger rising in them Right. And expressing right. And just, I warn them about it, that they may feel that, that day or the next day as an expression, which is just a really, it’s a healing expression.

Healing is needed, expression is needed for healing right. And, And that’s normal. Yeah. Just not to direct it at anyone, just to understand that, you know, well, well, even what you’re talking about that disease force, which I think the German new medicine calls significant biological indicators.

In [00:38:00] other words, everything the body’s doing is right and for a reason.

, if you saw that significant biological indicator or that disease force, which I guess is the natural flow you know, to say, well, maybe it’s time to pack it in for this life maybe it gives you some soul vantage point to see if you wanna renegotiate and maybe not pack it up but start but make a conscious decision to go in another direction. Like, in other words, I was one of, I was watching your lecture with a bunch of people, you know, a savvy chiropractor friend of ours and with someone else. And, you know, I’m always shushing people, you know, cause they’ll all start talking and he goes, oh yeah.

You know, the, our medical system is so twisted up, it’s so easy to do things right, but actually it’s not so easy., it’s not so easy to get up and do the enema and to get the nutrition and to, you know, take all your pills if you’re doing that, or juice all your juices or go out and assemble them.

And even one could be missing, [00:39:00] like you were saying, just by giving some zinc product, you could do so much of the healing of the God. And it, you know, it can and zinc is being stripped from our food by the fertilizers.. Yeah. It, we’re really getting into a position.

that we need to really pay attention to where we’re now relying on nutraceuticals to survive. That’s pretty scary to me. Yeah. Yeah. I’m glad to hear you say that. You know, because unless, and that’s why I focus so much on growing my own food and preserving food and understanding where my food comes from.

Know the farmer, know all the details of the food because then at least I can better gauge what level of minerals I’m getting, which is really the key to life. And what is, and make my own soil cause I compost and I make my own soil and I add back nutrients into the soil so that at least I know that the food is going to have value.

It’s just not eating [00:40:00] pretty food that’s empty. Right. And a lot of people, that’s what they’re eating all day long, is empty food that might look pretty on the outside., but on the inside is devoid of most of the main nutrients in trace levels, and added a lot of toxins that the body needs, nutrients to get out of the body and even eating.

I can’t, I’m so clean at this point. I can’t eat anything. I know immediately if I’ve eaten something that has any of those chemicals in it. I, if I have eaten GMO wheat, my body freaks. My mic gut immediately blows. Now tell me exactly what is GMO wheat as opposed to non GMO wheat? Well, genetically modified organisms are, and I have a, I actually have a bachelor’s degree of science in this topic, and I’ve made these in the lab and I know the level of stupidity that’s causing.

Why did you do that?? I did that because it was the closest degree to vet what I needed to [00:41:00] get all my vet credits to go to vet school. Did you know it was gonna be scary? I had no idea. It was a new program at the time, at my school, and Wow, you were right there. My advisor just suggested I do it. And it’s funny because this is my path.

You see, my path puts me in the way of knowing that I’m enemy and so it’s perfect that I have a degree in it because I know exactly. On the level of how dangerous it is. Wow. Because I was involved and I was brushing shoulder to shoulder with these big companies that are doing this to the food.

Wow. And they don’t care about science or health or any of that at all on any possible level. They do not care. And they have really messed up DNA or mixed DNA that would never, it would never normally mix. And have added in benefits by hand that you would never do. Like if you were to take two plants and cross hybrid them naturally., you could make a new hybrid, that’s fine. That you could call that a genetically modified organism on some level because you [00:42:00] have mixed a gene by introducing it to another plant and allowing them to cross over. But this’s different when you’re taking, like fish, a fish gene and putting it in corn.

That if you introduced corn to fish, nothing would happen they wouldn’t just would corn. Let’s breed baby. No, this is a synthetic over hyper crossing of DNA that never, ever would happen in a natural setting or even just by introduction. And these are also being genetically programmed to accept high levels or even produce high levels of pesticides.

And they’re mono crops. And then you put them in big fields and it’s just that crop and those crops will produce, say like BT corn’s one of the ones that’ll never ever, you’ll never get me eating corn. That’s not organic ever because that’s BT corn. And that bacteria Steris that they’ve put in there creates its own defenses, its [00:43:00] own pesticides.

And when you eat that, you are eating that gene and you’re putting that in your DNA and in your body. And they found in studies not only the rat tumors and crazy things that were created from ingesting it, which they just, I guess, ignored that data because they’re still feeding it to us. So the tumor formation was an absolute, but not only that, they found that it was changing the DNA of the cells, of the bacteria in your own gut, and then your own bacteria start making the toxin in your own body.

So you become your own toxin producing pesticide machine. You can bottle it and sell it. So this from your own gut. So the sums change because of that

in that case, the somatitis would be damaged. This is your your microflora in your gut microbiome, which you get seeded from birth, from your mother, from going through the vaginal canal.

Oh, wow. And that, those seedings are, there’s like 7 billion bacteria or so in the gut alone. The somatids are in the [00:44:00] blood. Now we’re talking about gut and that microbiome, they have a second going, going through the birth canal. Yeah. Yeah. You’re getting bacteria from your mother’s vagina. Vagina. Yep.

And what’s going through your nose? How does it get up your nose, mouth, secretion skin. Yep. And so that’s different from the colostrum that your nursing Yeah. You do get an introduction through colostrum, but it’s just different. It’s a vaginal canal that’s seeding. Wow. That’s seeding that gut right outta the gate.

And c-section babies have a totally different microbiome in the gut. No, I finally understand why c-sections not so good. Yeah. Oh yeah. So you don’t get any of that and all? No, it’s supposed to happen in a c-section, baby. If anybody had half a mind, they wouldn’t do c-section all. But if they had to then they, then what’s supposed to happen is the midwife is supposed to swab the vagina of the mother and then with, and put that in the child’s nose or mouth and feed it properly. I see. That’s what’s supposed to happen. And now, and that, and then that [00:45:00] starts the, do you call them colonies? What do you call them? Yeah, the root colonies. Okay. Will form at that juncture. And they’ll always be those colonies. They’ll never change from what we know and the probiotics and things that we eat and through our food through soil whatnot, that will, it’s like, I call it fish food.

It like feeds our existing colonies. They’re variety of diet. And it keeps them healthy and thriving really is what it does. So now these root colonies are what vaccinations affect. Oh, vaccinations, absolutely destroy the microbiome on multiple levels causing a lot of inflammation in the gut and leading to dead tissue due to heavy metals toxicity, but also inflammation and chronic inflammation. We know that chronic inflammation damages the cells and the cells that are damaged will die or partly die. And when you have cells not, aren’t working properly, like we said the balance of the electrolytes are off, then you get a lot of sodium in those cells.

[00:46:00] You get swelling, you get leaky gut cause the cells are swollen and they allow particles in. So it gets where you get all the allergies and all that kind of stuff are worse. Autism can come from that reaction. The gut makes your serotonin for your brain, so then your brain’s not functioning properly.

And the whole process is just, you have to start at the gut to heal any of this stuff because that’s where it’s all damaged from the vaccines. And the mucosa going, the villa, the mucosa going to be damaged. You’re not absorbing. Your food anymore. So your digestion and your assimilation of food, it goes way down.

So even if you wanna get back on track with higher nutrition, you can’t just eat more food because you’re not even gonna absorb it properly. So then you have to go parenter, you have to go outside of the gut to get that nutrition. That’s why I like to use a lot of topical applications. That’s where the dmso, it was very helpful for that.

I see. And the magnesium and so forth in until such a time that the detoxification takes place so that you get more back to those root Yeah. Colonies. Then you have [00:47:00] to focus on the repair and all the parasites and so forth that come in and all of the pathogenic bacteria that, you know, come in to, to try to take all that damaged tissue outta the way and repair.

They, all of that is, is active. No. And you can get sort of a secondary infection idea going on because once you get pathogenic, all types of pathogenic bacteria in there, it’s coming from the air. They can become hosts. It’s, they become parasites really is what goes on there. The pathogenic air, the in from pathogenic bacteria cause bacteria’s all in the air, right?

And if you are not, don’t have your own host defenses working for you anymore. And then you’re exposed to all different kinds of varying bacteria and it’s non self bacteria cause your body is designed to get rid of non self things.

And it can’t do that anymore than you’ve got hosts.

You’re playing host to a para, it’s like a mouse getting into your home, right?

Yeah. Like a mouse gets into your home you’ve got holes in the walls. [00:48:00] It’s gonna make a mess and it’s gonna find a nice closet to get into and it’s gonna start slowly chewing away and making a mess and peeing and pooing all over the place. Right. Right. I mean, it doesn’t belong in your house, and, but if if you’re aware, you’re gonna trap it, get out, whatever you gotta do and clean up the holes.

And that’s really what you gotta do in the body. Right. But they’ll get in. Right. Parasites get in all over the place. Right. Yeah. So now, but that’s really what happens in a lot of the cancers too, right? Because the defenses are down, then the parasites come in. How much do you think you can get back to your root colonies?

Well, oh, it upsets me when I hear the vaccine, like as soon as the vaccine happens. That’s, I, it’s like I shake my head. They’re ruined forever. Like you’ll never ever be who you were ever just from one vaccine. Because that microbiome right at infancy is just trying to set itself up and figure out what it is, figure out what self, non-self is, and then you’ve totally obliterated its [00:49:00] ability to understand what’s just happened and introduced all of these foreign particles that are totally non-self.

But it’s overwhelming to the system because it causes, like, causes a stroke, right? It causes hyper inflammation. It causes too many reactive cells going in there. It causes too much necessity of nutrients to try to create all those immunoglobulins that it will never even ever use, and it puts a body into a state of alarm or a shock.

And this whole cascade can take so long to try to come to terms with. And if the body finally fails and it’s trying to just understand what happened, then you’re going to get, you know, the leukemias and the, oh, the autism can happen immediately, but it can also be delayed all kinds of ms from the heavy metals the, you name, the type of weird cancers that we never had ever, but now we do because thanks to these and it’s like the poor body is so brilliant and, but then you kind of just [00:50:00] kick it in the groin a few dozen times and it’s like, what are you supposed to do?

Like, how much is this? But on the other hand, I was reading, I think it was in Bob Becker’s book, body Electric.. He was saying that there was something like a hundred cases from World War II on the battlefield, where these mangled soldiers, they were just, there wasn’t enough painkiller or they had something that was barely a painkiller.

That was all that they had done for The guy and he just heals I mean, he just heals. And there’s one producer here whose father was a battlefield general. And he had to lead his men out of some dangerous situation. And he said three bullets went through him and they all cauterized, you know, even for one, even for one to do it.

But three of them did it. And then Becker was talking about, did you read that book? The Body Electric? Yeah. A long time ago. Yeah. That’s just an amazing, I mean, I hate animal [00:51:00] studies, but in this case, this, these were amazing studies Yeah. About how a dog’s heart, if it would get crushed beyond a certain percentage, it would seem to go back, regress into some kind of stem cell stature.

And he called that chapter the embryo at the wound. That it was like, So badly damaged and it caused such confusion. The cells thought they were starting all over again. And would create a new organ? Oh yeah. There is amazing regenerative properties of the body, don’t get me wrong, but these, this information the comes from injury, how the body can bounce back from a physical injury like being shot or whatnot, right?

Or, but vaccines seem to be injuries. Vaccines are injuries, but the level of injury is on so many levels at once and that it’s affecting the baseline, especially in babies we’re talking that haven’t developed themselves yet. [00:52:00] Right? Yeah. It’s taken it to that level where now things, the somatid’s are affected.

The back the formation of the bacterial colonies is affected. The neurological system is affected. You’ve dumped heavy metals in there that will sit around, that they’re in there until you go after them. At different growth phases, the hormone system will be affected. Right. So yeah, sure. We can bounce back from a lot.

And it’s a testament to the fact that we’re even still here now. That’s right. What’s been done to us. right, That’s right. But what I’m saying is once the terrain has an assault to that level, it’s you’ll never get a snapshot of exactly how it was at that point. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I can see that. That’s my point. I can see that. But yes, it can heal, but gosh, if we just didn’t, then we wouldn’t have all this healing work to do. Right. It would be a totally different level of healing that we would be on at this point in this journey rather than all this the stories I get and the clients that come to me and the level of ill health that I’m [00:53:00] seeing is absolutely alarming.

I’m, every day I’m like, I’m just overwhelmed with it. The level of cancer is the level of bedridden. Kids basically, I mean, twenties and thirties bedridden from fibromyalgia. Yeah, I know, right? Like, what was that story that just happened? That there was an autistic adult walking around and the hospital just kept rejecting this adult, well, thirties, right?

And I don’t know what happened, but there’s some accident got hit on the head or whatever, and it was just like the story was, Hey, guess what? There’s gonna be a heck of a lot of autistic adults walking around very soon. And what’s that gonna look like? And if the hospitals now don’t wanna take any responsibility for it and nobody wants to take any responsibility, now what are we gonna do?

Right? What happens when the parents, well, we’ve definitely gotta pace ourselves at we need to st pause for station ID right now, and then I wanna share an experience., you’re listening to WIOF-LP, [00:54:00] Woodstock 1 0 4, and this is Farther Down the Rabbit Hole with Paula Gloria and guest on the telephone.

Amandha Vollmer. Yeah. What I wanted to share was after I have these glorious detox experiences and they come in these pulses and waves, and at first I thought it was like the castor oil pack. You shouldn’t go longer than 20 minutes., but then I decided to follow what, I don’t know, what do you think about that before I go on?

Well, yeah, for the Castro, sure. I mean, there you can do castor enemas. In fact, in the Gerson therapy they do them really, they do gastro in the en.. Well, you wouldn’t wanna retain it though. Really it’s the whole idea is you can’t hold it too long. Like good luck with that. But it will help release a lot of those toxic materials.

Really, the whole point is what can happen in a coffee enema is things get stuck. For some people they’re doing the enema and that actually doesn’t come out, and this is just, helps [00:55:00] it open back up again. So the coffee interest, interesting. How interesting. Well, so, so anyway in my, you know, explorations with coffee animals I got to this place where I thought, well, now that I have this nice detox body, let me not go down that wrong path of whatever.

in there in the first place. I’m particularly thinking of the emotions. That’s what really interests me.. And you know, like I say, to feel this negativity today, I did it, not because I was feeling something physically needing to do it, but because I was feeling this negativity. And it worked. And I’m just wondering, you said that coffee will render a homeopathic remedy. Impotent. What is it about coffee? Well, you know, in, if you go into a store that has a lot of perfumes, they have coffee beans there for you to stiff to cleanse the pallet of the nose so that you can have a lot of different scents coming in.

It seems to neutralize a lot of this. Oh, I didn’t know [00:56:00] that. Yeah. If you go to a perfume store, they often have that. If you’re doing a lot of testing of to clear your pallet, aren’t they? To clear it. I’ve heard smell them, huh? Yeah. Felicia., I’ve heard that if you wrap your marijuana in a bag full of coffee beans or coffee grinds better yet.

So there’s more powerful odor. The drug sniffing dogs can’t detect it. Oh we’ve never tested it. Thank you for that tip,. Well, that would make sense. See, I always love the smell of coffee, but I never liked to drink it. It always made my stomach not feel good. Yeah. It’s a funny dichotomy, right?

You love the smell of taste. Hate the taste. Yeah. Yeah. Well, particularly the results taste was like, okay, but you know, by the time it got to my stomach, I said, this isn’t good. Yeah, well, it tends to, so up the it’s a hydrogen sulfide gas that it likes to absorb and it’s, so basically if you had a sewage spill, you’d want to throw some coffee grinds down

If you had a, what [00:57:00] if you had a sewage spill you could use coffee for that. Right, right. Yeah. And I heard worms like it for composters. For us composters. Yep. I put it with my worms. They love it. Now what about the zinc?

Apparently zinc is absorbed through the coffee. Well, is that true or Depends on where the beans are grown.

Yeah. It there’s so much to study with that. And again, it’s always going to depend on the types of soils. And with the coffee enemas, you really want the light for roast. You wanna make it to drip coffee roast, but really, ideally you don’t want to destroy the p acids and so forth. You don’t want a dark roast or anything.

And I used to, I got that wrong before, cause I used to suggest darker roast for that. Cause I thought it had the more of the acids that I was doing some more research and it was looking like, depending on the coffee bean type, and this can get intricate, but depending on the region it’s coming from and so forth, really you’re just going with a lighter roast.

You take the green [00:58:00] beans to the level where they’re just going to, you can grind them after. So you’re not really going too roasty with it. So you don’t boil it in water like Wilson does yeah. You make it like coffee when I’m talking about the roasting protein. Well, see, I didn’t know how to make coffee, so let’s start from the basics.

Yeah, I used to, I thought that was cowboy coffee when you just put it in the pot and boiled it. Do you drink coffee for that’s the unstrained refined, you know, part of it. But the main thing was when you get the green bean, because it’s actually a berry, right? Coffee is a berry, it’s a red berry, and then they spread it out in the sun and the berry will dry off of it.

And then the bean is inside, and then the bean is green. It’s green, and it actually has to be, I pretty sure they have to ferment it, or maybe I’m mixed up with cacao. They roast it has to, they roast it. They roast it, yeah. Yeah. No, chocolate has to be fermented, but coffee’s roasted. And then c, but coffee, when you buy, like I used to buy it green.

I used to buy just the green beans, just like that. And then I’d take them home and I’d roast them in my oven. and I’d roast [00:59:00] ’em till they were the calmly crackly, dark roast. Cause I loved the dark roast when I used to drink it. And and cause I was a coffee connoisseur, if you will and then when I started to do it for enemas, I was still doing a darker roast.

But it seems like there’s more glutathione S-transferase activity from more palates in the lighter roast. So that’s really where you want to go with that, huh? Did you ever make coffee, Felicia? Yeah. Well my folks used to percolate it, which is terrible. But then I found some people call it the Spanish method, which is to just put the grinds in cold water and slowly heat it very gently until vapors are coming up.

And then you filter it through a you know, through a filter of some sort, whether you are using hemp or cotton or paper or whatever.. So how do you do it, Amanda? When I do the enema, I do it in the stainless steel pot method. So you have a quart of water and three heaping tablespoons of gr ground coffee.

And you, and which kind Fine, fine grinding. Yeah. [01:00:00] The light roast, no. Fine grind. Yeah, I grind it pretty fine. Okay. Yeah, I have a grinder. I just, I get the beans and I just grind them. I see. Could I ask a stupid question while we’re on coffee? Yeah., why not just drink? Don’t say milk and cream. No.

Uh I don’t do that. I do black, no sugar. But why not just drink some strong coffee with some nice organic dark chocolate? And that would probably do the same job or would it not for Oh no. You’d never get that much at ays transferase. It would stimulate the adrenal glands, which you don’t want.

And it doesn’t do that when you do it rectally. It is a pure liver and blood cleanse. When you do that and it sequesters free radicals and then you drink it you’re creating through the stomach and it’s a very different process going through the digestive tract that way rather than the colon will absorb.

Right? And if you held that longer than 15 minutes, you’d absorb all of it. You’d absorb that whole coffee in you. You don’t wanna go beyond that. And it, and also cause the [01:01:00] colon is what regulates the water. Ultimately, a lot of the water in your body with your in conjunction with your kidneys. And it will when the kidneys are done with excretion, right?

Like that’s where the water’s controlled through your bladder and through your, you know, I don’t right. I excrete it when I hold it longer than 15. Yeah. And the fee the, what I thought was happening was that stuff was draining down through the bile, you know, and emptying that. The fee I, it’s, it felt like it kicked up all of the detox stuff in my body and it was flowing out.

It just, did you get the pop sensation of the gallbladder opening? Cause some people actually feel that when it opens the gallbladder, no. Yeah. Not because it will stimulate the bile ducts, it will stimulate the gallbladder to pop open and drained it’s contents. And sometimes people actually feel or even hear that happen.

Oh, I didn’t hear it, but it felt like stuff was happening all over., you know, does, [01:02:00] is, are there bile ducts all over or is it just the liver? No just the liver. But the, your, remember you’re cleansing your entire blood volume. Yeah. Right. And every three minutes it’s going through the liver.

Right. Three, four minutes. So, yeah. Now what about the kidneys? Well, the kidneys are filters. They, you know, and I don’t know really how the kidneys, other than I know it can increase urination as well, like after. Yeah. And there is some diuretic activity. I just don’t know the level of which the diuretic activity is affecting the kidneys in the coffee enema.

Right. They don’t, in the Gerson book, they don’t really talk about it much like they don’t mention the kidneys other than increased urination can occur. But I don’t, it’s more of a liver effect rather than kidneys. You and actually drinking coffee from the top down is really what’s affecting the kidneys because it’s attract affecting the adrenals which sit on the kidneys.

And then it affects the diuretic hormone, which is part of the kidney system. Can you explain what adrenals do? [01:03:00] Well, your adrenal glands are, they make hormones and they’re going to pump out cortisol and adrenaline in result to stress of some sort. There’s long-term stress and then short-term stress.

And so a short-term stress, you get an adrenaline hit.

Like if you’re gonna get hit by a bus, right, then it, the adrenal will start pumping out adrenaline. And that’s the fight or flight mechanism where you’re gonna figure out what you’re gonna do in that moment. And it has an effect on the body where it shuts down certain aspects like digestion, for example.

That’s why if you’re really stressed, you don’t digest very well. Right.

Because you’re in fight or flight mode right.

And you’re not meant to eat at that point. Like you’re not gonna sit down and have a meal when you think you’re gonna be chased by a tiger. Yeah. Right.

And your bowels and things, everything tightens up.

If a woman is pregnant and she’s in that mode, she won’t have a baby because, she’s in fight or flight mode. Right. That’s also a, you don’t have a baby in hospital because that’ll put you in fight or flight mode and you’ll have stalled labor and then that’ll set you up [01:04:00] for c-section,. And more blood was pumped to the muscles.

Right?

More blood is pumped to the brain, to the eyes. So you can think on your feet, that kind of thing.. And when you drink a coffee, it hits the adrenals and it releases these hormones. I see. Yeah. And then there’s cortisol. And that’s, it’s a bit different releases, like that’s a slower release.

And so we see that when I do my diabetes video, hopefully this week I’m finished it. I talk a lot about the levels of cortisol and the levels of stress and the relationship to diabetes type one versus type two.

They have very different cortisol pro profiles.

Wow.

And there’s different aspects to the adrenal.

There’s the cortex and the me and they produce the different hormones basically. And they’re like steroids. Right. Steroid hormones. Wow. Yeah. So now the Chinese associate the kidneys with fear. Yeah. With the negative emotion sense, doesn’t it? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Now when I saw my mother in a nursing home, I flew out, she was in California, and she hadn’t [01:05:00] swallowed for a month.

And so I brought an acupuncturist in who immediately got her to swallow. Wow. Can you can And the acupuncturist said it was fear that kept her from swallowing. Would that be associated with the kidney meridian? Wow. That’s that’s sad. That’s the defensive type of reflex, for sure.

Yeah. Sorry, you asked what’s it, is it related to, it, is it related to the kidney meridian? Well, it’s a neurological control. For sure. So yeah, like if your nervous system is totally fried, your central nervous system is going to be affected i, there’s, and it’s a reflex to swallow, and that has to be kicked in by by the nervous system.

So I don’t really know off the top of my head. I’d have to look at it again. Wow. But what you’re saying about diabetes in the kidneys, you know, I’m saying it’s diabetes type one I believe they had to create diabetes type one. They have a starting gate of low cortisol levels, and in type two, they have a high starting gate of cortisol levels.

[01:06:00] And so actually high cortisol is preventative to type one diabetes. But it creates type two, and it’s because cor, the cortisol is anti-inflammatory and PR can protect the pancrea.. So that was really all that part. I see. That was, but it was in relationship to what happens in, in a vaccine cuz vaccines cause both type one and type two diabetes.

And then this video, I’m trying to put that together for people, how that works. Yeah. I’m very curious to see that. Yeah. And different species of human, if you will, like different cultures have different starting gate levels of cortisol. That’s why there’s one size fits all idea of like, everyone gets this vaccine kind of Is it’s crazy upon crazy because you can’t even assume that one individual’s gonna be similar to another individual in their hormone levels. And that can, that’s why certain subcultures are more susceptible to to different diseases from vaccines. And that’s why you’re not gonna get across the board [01:07:00] disease rate, right?

Like they would say, well if this vaccine caused diabetes, type one, wasn’t everybody have diabetes type one’s. Like, well, because not everybody has the same levels of hormones coming in. Not everyone has the same susceptibility. And we’re getting down to the nitty gritty, the science on that, cause they’re, that exists.

And you can’t just keep ignoring science just for your own convenience. Right. So now would coffee enemas help diabetes? Yeah, coffee enemas would help any level of anything because of the fact that it is detoxing a toxic body. And in any disease, you’re going to have toxicity. Period. Right, I see.

Yeah. Now you were talking about the Hemorrhoidal channel and another channel that the Hemorrhoidal veins. What is the Hemorrhoidal veins? Well, there’s, there are veins like that connect to the colon that, so the colon, the liver, they’re all talking, right?, they’re all communicating. And so the veins like the hemorrhoidal vein goes to the portal vein the portal, and [01:08:00] they absorb the coffee and send the coffee to that venous plexus, if you will.

It’s a rectal plexus, and it’s, the Hemorrhoidal plexus is called. It’s called, and it’s around the rectum and it communicates with even the vesicles of the male.. And the vaginal venous plexus and the female too, like it as a tree, it kind of looks like old tree. And it will have free communication between the portal and the systemic venous vein systems through the whole rectum basically.

And so it’s a, call it a communication device so when there’s a hemorrhoidal flare up, that’s because Toxicity, yeah. Toxicity is in that area. It’s causing a pressure differential. And it’ll, it’s really just of buildup of toxicity. Anyone who has hemorrhoids is a, an issue of a laxed tissue combined with toxicity.

And you could say that the toxicity is really what’s caused the laxed tissue in the first place. And it can make pain go to the calves [01:09:00] and even the soles of the feet. Well, yeah. Well, it’s a connect. It’s the big toes connected to the knee, bone you know, it’s like, right? Everything’s connected.

So I mean, if your vesicle venous plexus in, in the mail is all backed up and it’s gonna go somewhere and it’s gonna cause inflammation and it’s gonna cause these outpouching, these hemorrhoids, and then it’s affecting the nerve conduction in the area.

And that’s all connected to the leg and the anus.

Yeah, it’s can, yeah. You know, it’s called referred pain. Really? So, yeah. Is it there, there’s no relation to sciatica, is there? Well, again it’s all connected, right?.. So like that the muscle could be tense from the level of toxicity that could cause the toxics to go out of alignment.

That could throw the lower back out, that could then pull on the muscles and the muscles tighten, and then the nerve is being squeezed. And yeah, I mean it all can come down [01:10:00] to the fact that the spine’s out of alignment and the toxicity is poisoning an area. And you can even have a spinal segment go out of alignment from the level of toxicity.

Oh wow.

It’s called a chemical subluxation.

That’s what I get in my neck. I get a chemical subluxation from a dental, I had a dental injury and the dental injuries cause scar tissue and then my own bacteria or external, because it’s in the sinus cavity, I get can get it coming from the external coming.

Want to eat that tissue and that cause of inflammation and their own toxicity and that wow. Causes my neck to my muscles to tighten and then the neck will go out from that. How did you figure that out? A lot of deduction and reasoning and experience through a lot of pain. Wow. And trial and error.

Wow. And just being like a health detective onto myself. Wow. So then it wasn’t my imagination that the coffee enema was making my neck pain go away. Nope. Absolutely not. I mean, it is a painkiller but it [01:11:00] could go that high. Getting rid of pain molecules in from the blood and that’s anywhere in the body now.

That’s interesting. Pain molecules cause in Bob Becker’s book he said, science can’t tell you what pain is or pleasure. Say that again at Bob Becker’s book, the Body Electric. Yeah. He said science doesn’t know what produces pain or pleasure. They can’t measure it. But you’re saying there are pain molecules.

Well, science is stupid. then. Yeah. Molecules of inflammation. You know, there’s, they’re pain markers, you know, like, oh, pain markers. Yeah. Which in the blood, yeah. I mean, we know that maybe when he wrote it, he didn’t know about these proteins. There’s acute phase reactants. They’re proteins.

They can increase by, or go lower by like 25% or more during inflammation. They’re called C-reactive proteins. There’s you can tell. Risky sedimentation rate. The ESR is something that we learn in school where we see how [01:12:00] fast the red blood cells basically fall into a specific solution at time.

We, we test that time and that tells us the, a level of acute phase reactions happening in there. And that tells us the level of c-reactive protein essentially. Or inflammation essentially in the blood. And that causes pain. Yeah. Maybe what he meant was what one person’s inflammation might bother one person more than another for the same level.

Think he was inflammation. Yeah. Think he was talking more about people’s receptivity or sensitivity to pain. Yeah. Yeah. And the way that they’re in the way that they’re translating those, right. Those markers in their psyche, in their emotional field. That’s what I think is more I mean it’s such a volatile topic.

The whole idea of the body being an electrical., you know? Yeah. We’re all electric. Really. I mean, yeah. But, you know, because of Willhelm Reich’s book and how Willhelm Reich wound up in prison. Oh gosh. You know, but I, well he worked, I think he was doing a lot of work on sexuality and [01:13:00] orgasm and that was just beyond the pay trouble.

I can always get you into trouble. That’s really a pity, you know? Yeah, I know. I mean, they’ve done that with a lot of greats, though. They’ve jailed them or damaged them in some ways. Yeah. Cuz I mean, I heard he and Freud split up over Freud thought that you should sync up with society and will Hound Reich thought that, no, you should lead society.

You know that. Yeah. It’s like, right. Reich is to Freud or y is to Freud as pasture is to be shamp. You know what I mean?. Yeah. You see this in every era or in every aspect of every science. This dichotomy between good and evil, it’s our theme of life, it seems, and for some reason, the evil bastards tend to win out.

Pardon? For the swear bit. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like the evil ones tend to be the more ruthless and [01:14:00] they’re the ones that will take whatever measures there to make sure that they win. Whereas like for example, Beauchamp, he didn’t stand up for himself. You see? So pasture was plagiarizing all of his work and Beauchamp was just a nice guy.

And he said, ah, well, poor pasture. You know, what has he got? He’s just a little twerp and. Well, I’m a gentleman and I’m not going to do anything negative against him, blah, blah, blah. But then the annals of science, we see this false history because of it. Right. And if he stood up for himself, maybe it’s all a lesson in, in people who are.

Telling the truth to stand up for themselves. Maybe that’s the lesson, you know, in all of this. Well, I remember, you know, to do a good job on producing a series, really real reality TV group therapy. I went down to the Center for Modern Psychoanalytic Studies and started looking at DVDs of Hyman Spot Nets.

Who went farther than Sigmund Freud? Is that, in other words Freud admitted he [01:15:00] wasn’t a very good therapist. He was a good analyst. But you can analyze all day long and you’re not gonna really heal anybody necessarily.. So Spot Nets was able to to heal schizophrenics. It took a lot of work and anyway, in doing all that research, it just opened up something so beautiful for me, and now I’ve recently come across this CIA mind control thing with MK Ultra, and it’s just horrifying.

How the work of some really beautiful, healing great people who wanted to help humanity, how they completely turn it around and make it into something really awful and dangerous and despicable.. So yeah, we’re in. It’s just been, when you really go down that rabbit hole and you look at all.

It’s really shocking and it takes the type of mind that can handle that because a lot of people, they, as you mentioned earlier in the show, they come [01:16:00] up against cognitive dissonance.

When they are faced with a truth that conflicts their own reality or their own belief system is a very uncomfortable process and something you’ve been told your whole life is true.

Then you’re finding conflicting information. It’s more comforting or comfortable to believe a lie than the truth before you because of that sensation. And if you are in a position where it’s not conducive to what you think is your, as your mental health or emotional health, and you won’t go there, right?

So it does take a level of willingness and availability and strength and courage to do that and go there and accept that. And it’s hard on the psyche actually to get up every day and realize what’s going on this earth. And then to keep going through it. And we see a lot of powerful activists who commit suicide because they can’t take it anymore, right?

Because they’re right in the throes of it, of all right, the destruction and the ridiculousness and the evil and the [01:17:00] lies and the deception. And they try to do something about it. And then they’re faced with real criticism from not only the evil doers themselves, but the people on all levels that won’t do that work of actually facing their own inner fears and go past that threshold into truth of their own reality.

And it’s just where, it’s just what it is. It’s just where it’s at. And you, either you do that work or you don’t, and that’s your, it’s, but if we all did the work, we wouldn’t have the problem in the first place because we’d get rid of the evil doers. It, at this point, for me, it’s like, it is what it is.

And I will continue to do the truth work and get up every day and focus on helping people and finding the truth, and exposing the truth and just it’s my path. And there it is. Right? Just like it’s your path to go to these situations and do the work you’ve done and heal yourself from cancer naturally and go through all the experiences that you are going through.

And it’s, well, it makes me very [01:18:00] grateful., you know, because if I didn’t have all these things happen, evictions and stuff like that, there was no other way for me to learn this knowledge, because it’s so hidden, it’s so hidden. You really can’t understand the economy until you understand foreclosure.

And I see. It’s the same old pattern and practice. It’s technology just makes it look different. But you know, I’m very attracted to the work of Walter Wink, and he’s part of a non-violent movement that came out of the nineties, at least his journey. He went down to South America, where.

he was some kind of a Christian, you know, minister or something.. And he wanted to to do counseling work with people who were tortured, or families of people who had disappeared and were tortured. And he got to a point where he was near suicidal.. And at this point he had this radically different understanding of the Bible, [01:19:00] which when you lay it out, it looks like the St.

James version was all about changing. They had to change one thing, which was that Jesus was not practicing non-resistance. He was practicing non-violence. So you,, if you have the correct interpretation. In other words the interpretation that allows you to continue working in these horrible situations where people are tortured and MK ultras and mind controls and all that, which is that you do resist tyranny, you know, but you do it non-violent.

. And that’s like a huge thing. So in this book, he lays it out, you know, saying that in Palestine at that time, there was such debt going on because the Romans had to keep a standing army and in order to keep a standing army at cost. So then the Romans were leaning on the [01:20:00] rich people.

to pay, and the rich people wanted to hide their assets., they would hide their assets in land. Well, that mean meant you had to push the peasants off the land. So then these peasants would have to go into court and there was one law that you could take a man’s coat, but you had to give it back at the end of the day because that’s all he had left to sleep in his coat.

Wow. So, so Jesus said this is, you know, he gives a radically different interpretation of this. He said, Jesus was saying if he, if they ask for your coat, give your shirt too, and this radical interpretation, which I think is the correct one, said that if you give your shirt also you’re gonna walk out of court stark naked

Now if you walk out of court stark naked, now it’s considered such an abomination to be naked. and it’s offending the people who were viewing more. And he said, talk about Gorilla [01:21:00] Theater. You start to really show who you know, look at the system. It’s taken somebody who generationally was on this land and now he’s walking out of the court naked, you know?

So, you know, I wouldn’t have, I wouldn’t, you know, he’s talking about the bank fraud. You could be talking about the swindling on the, of Google and the websites and stuff like that. But it’s the same old thing. You know, you create this treachery and this trickery, like now they’re saying that the New York legislature has outlawed the common.

Well, you can’t outlaw the common law when the constitution’s based on the common law, otherwise, the New York legislature is committing treason.. But unless anybody calls ’em on it, people just consent to it. Then it’s just offer and acceptance., they offer this, and the offer is, we’ve outlawed it.

And the 1930s. In the 1930s, right? Yeah. You can’t amend the constitution. That’s the whole point of the constitution.. [01:22:00] I mean, yeah. But it’s off. But now you’re in the realm of offer and acceptance. Yeah. You know, so if you, they changed it into contract law rather than, yeah. Well, so you just have to be really careful about your contracting.

Yeah. In the same with a vaccine situation, so many people have bought this. They’ve been hoodwinked into thinking that it’s mandatory when it’s not. And this is what, like, wow. It’s just so bold. Oh, and I thought what you did with that eight year old was so brilliant because it really does boil down to personal relationships.

They make the offer and you have to accept, but it seems so impolite to do that. It seems so disrespectful to do that. But when you realize your life, your home, your property, your legacy is depending on it, then you have to as nice. You don’t have to be angry. You don’t have to be mean, you don’t have to be abusive.

You can just say no. Right. That’s it. You know? [01:23:00] Yeah. And I’m correcting people all the time with that. Nope. There’s a waiver, which is a ridiculous waiver. I always tell them it’s a, the waiver you have to sign. for daycare or child going, your child going to school when they’re not vaccinated is it shows the ignorance of the system.

They, I don’t think they realize how stupid they look to an educated person. And how em basilic the, the government looks. But that’s what’s handed out because it’s based on that if your child if there’s a sickness that goes around, you’ll remove your child immediately. And what it’s suggesting is that your child is more susceptible to getting sick cuz they’re not vaccinated.

And it’s the opposite is what we see is that the vaccinated or less likely to get sick when there’s an epidemic or when there’s a sickness going around. And if you just did some base, if you just looked with your eyeballs, you would see it. And it’s well proven in studies. So it just shows how ignorant they are that this is.

They don’t even want, it’s like the elephants in the room and they refuse to look at it. And [01:24:00] the elephants having babies and there’s baby elephants in the room too, and they’re still refusing to look at it. I mean, how many more babies in the of elephants have to be produced in that room before they’re gonna go, okay, you know what?

We can’t even breathe anymore. There’s so many elephants in there. Yeah. And they also say that your child is putting the others at risk because the child’s not getting vaccinated. Right. It’s the opposite. And it’s everything that they’ve done is the exact opposite of what is true.

But now what you’re saying about educated isn’t quite right either. cause I’ve seen educated people even worse. What I mean, bending over. And when I mean educated like you and I don’t mean uh, scholastic. You mean mind controlled, educated. That’s different. Yeah. That seems to be what so much education is mind control because it’s just brainwashing.

Yeah. Yeah. And then no. It’s not educated. I don’t call that educated., the hyper-intelligent, mind controlled, sort like the doctors, nurses, surgeons, politicians, they’re entrained into a system that they follow, like [01:25:00] a, like they they’re actually just following like a cog in a wheel. They’re trained to run it, and they’re running their little processes like a computer, and they’re very good, and they know exactly how to do that, and like, that’s how they run.

Right. And then you, especially if you throw them off that track, woo. They really can’t think, they really can’t go there. It’s like, I can’t compute, I can’t compute that new information. That’s really, I’ve had these discussions with them. These, they don’t get it. They can’t compute it, they can’t get it.

That’s really sad, isn’t it? It’s like a type of autism. Yeah., you know? Well, that’s why I call them the hyper intellectual idiots. Yeah. Because they’re so hyper intellectual. They have no heart feeling, and they’re like psychopath. And they can’t compute out outside of their algorithms. I find myself less and less angry at them though, which is really I think another mark of my healing because I can, I and I can be more effective.

Like the other day I [01:26:00] got a call., I think it was eight o’clock at night from the St. Mary’s Prayer Center ministry and press one if I wanted them to pray for me or press three if I wanted to be off the list to be prayed for. Well, I didn’t want it to do either of them because I didn’t want them to pray, cuz I didn’t know who’s praying for me and I didn’t wanna press three because if I pressed three, that would automatically have given consent for the call to have happened in the first place.

Huh? So the next day I called the number back cuz I saw it was giving the number and it said Thank you for calling the St. Mary’s prayer. Center Ministry, we’ll call you back in 24 hours. So I got my tape recorder ready cuz I said, you know, I just gotta share this with the audience because I believe that’s how you regain your privacy.

, you know, one, one challenged call at a time. And so they didn’t call back in 24 hours. So I called again and I made a recording [01:27:00] of that and I was hoping to play it out next week on my show because I’m really adamant that because we’re in the contract law and they’re doing all this offer and acceptance stuff, we just have to constantly contract back and keep saying no. And and this is you know, prayer free space. If I don’t know who’s praying for me, well, you can go no contract or you can just keep changing the terms of the contract. Yeah. And make your own. make your own contracts with what’s going to happen to them? Well, you know, since the last time you called up, my computer was shut down for two days.

Yeah. What happened? It was the service provider because I called them back. I’d had problems. I still haven’t got my lap, my laptop up online again. But I call up Apple computer and it says, call back during working hours and I am calling during working hours. I’ll get those two files cuz they really quick and it really illustrates to the audience what’s going on.

And [01:28:00] these corporations, even though they seem so big and so scary, they still have to operate through third party law firms and things like public service commissions and public relation firms. And when you slay them, because you just, you don’t have to get angry about it. You don’t have to get upset.

You just how you describe the hyper educated idiots, you know, you just pass through the tests and They can’t answer the phone. So I said to the service provider, which was Spectrum, used to be Time Warner Cable. I said I know it’s not the computer because when I turn it on, the apple comes on and I hear the noise.

And that I know is a sound because I’ve been around so many of these people that work on computers and I’ve learned little things here and there. And you know, I don’t know if it’s a coincidence because they’re trying to do this massive foreclosure rollout on the internet, or if it was my [01:29:00] call that specifically got my computer back online, or if they just can’t stand not hearing from me because I was able to call Spectrum from the telephone.

And interestingly enough I couldn’t get the Woodstock police in the telephone book. So everybody is rushing over to the internet. But the internet is a very leaky vessel. When you actually need some desperate help, you know, you start to figure these things out. So, you know, I could have recorded that call.

I could have operated without the internet. And I remember Randy Steele who started this radio station, she hated the internet. She wanted this to be an internet free zone. And I didn’t quite understand what she was aiming for until just recently. Now I see. She was definitely seeing over the horizon because we are on an FCC licensed radio station, which [01:30:00] means.

That a license is a contract with the government. Yep. So the government can’t, there’s no plausible deniability. This information has been released to the community and it’s the community that the Federal Communications Commission is supposed to serve. They’re not supposed to serve special interests who are sneaking up, wifis and things like that.

Do you have any thoughts on that, Felicia? Well, yeah,, we’re in an interesting, they’re bringing down the hammer really is what ha is happening. There’s a lot of cyber attacks going on. I mean, I’ve, I’m blocked on Facebook, been for 30 days. I think I have 10 more days left on a Facebook ban. The they’re gonna try to get in on the leaks of these contracts and they’re trying to, to take away through censorship.

A lot of our expressions, right? Like using social media what I mean, bringing down the hammers, just squashing freedom on every level. Like wherever they can squash freedom, it’s insidious because [01:31:00] they can do it in a way that’s very individualized, and sometimes they do it in a way that you don’t really know you’re being squashed, whether you’re being robbed of bandwidth or, you know, you’re kept off of this particular social media, but not that, or you’re kept o Yeah.

You know, all this kind of stuff. And when they shut this station down, everybody will know it,, you know, because it’s broadcast and people don’t even have to, you know, you sure you need a radio, but you don’t have to give your mother’s maiden name and your social security number to some service.

You just by the radio, it’s yours. You turn it on and you get us. If we’re within range and our range goes like 17, 20 miles away and sometimes more depending upon the terrain. No, it’s, yeah. Well this is the plan to own and control absolutely everything. And when you do that, like this, like the supplement company that I was, the companies I was using got bought at by Nestle.

Now I’m not gonna buy from them anymore. But that’s, I’ve [01:32:00] noticed that this is a trend happening, which I warned about long time ago seeing in the naturopathic community. And I’m not licensed as a naturopathic doctor, by the way, and that’s also on purpose. My story with them is a big one. And no I totally understand and respect that we’re not big on licenses.

No, because it’s a contract. And also with my work on vaccines, they have made sure to as a policy then you have to follow their policies. Right. Or they’ll just torture you. They’ll come in and they’ll take your files and they’ll shut you down. They’ll try to find whatever little thing they can, like you were saying Felicia, like the little bit of bandwidth whatever they can do, that’s just enough to mess you up.

That’s what they do. So it’s not so overt. Right. Right. So they don’t get overtly sued. See, the reason I was following up this thing about the prayer ministry is, you know, if I clicked one or three, I would’ve consented to contract because I clicked that and that’s what I didn’t wanna, [01:33:00] do you see the computer being shut down for two days?

And what Felicia said about it being, you know, discriminated on IP address to IP address, could have a day where you’re, you know, because we know the cryptocurrencies are on the horizon where, you know, they could be massive shutdowns of the people who they, the powers that be decide shouldn’t be you know.

Yeah. But go long and short, we have a centralized system of money, a fiat currency, which is based on nothing. And it’s centralized. And what cryptos do is it’s decentralized money, which is the way we need to be because we need it to be community centered. And that’s what the cryptos do.

But imagine if you can’t get on the computer.

That’s what I’m saying. Or even with crypto. The thing is can be very selectively by who’s whoever doing, you know, who’s ever marketing that cryptocurrency, you can selectively be. You know, have your stuff evaporated. You know, it’s not like a coin that it’s there. No, it’s not that at all.

That’s a myth that’s going through. It’s [01:34:00] not like that. The crypto understanding is that also, by the way, just cause the internet is the one we’re using by them, there’s other ways to set up an internet.

And I have a form of how to make your own internet. Like, don’t worry about that.

The internet’s going to get shut down, da crap. No. There’s wallets that you put this stuff into and you can put it on a different stream of internet, which is coming more and more. It’s all virtual, which means that it’s rewind. But the real money is virtual too. And the thing is, if I have a coin, it’s made of metal and somebody could say, well, you know, that metal might not be as worth as much as they say it is, but it’s worth something.

Cause it’s still a piece of metal. Right. And the whole point to fee it currency or any type of currency, like once that piece of paper, that dollar and that crashes, which it is going, that’s worth nothing. And that’s what most people are using is the fiat currency. That’s based on feeding the centralized system and what’s happening with the blockchain and the beyond that, the block, there’s other [01:35:00] systems coming in, is it’s bringing in new technologies.

It’s accelerating the people’s work.

It’s supporting little people like me. I could make a coin tomorrow and put it on the market. And that would support my work and my efforts. It’s taking money away from the big banks and trust me, they’re freaking out and they’re making their own coins and trying to get back any power they have.

And this is actually a good move because what it’s doing is it’s decentralizing their power and it’s putting it back into the power of the people. And that’s where we need to be. But do you rem, do you know the history of.. I’ve learned a little bit of it, but I’m not talking about Bitcoin. I’m talking, there’s about’s all the other but that, that, that particular one, I remember there was some guy that got into trouble.

Now I, my suspicion is he probably made a deal and it’s owned. You don’t see it until later. You do. You know, something as simple as notarizing, your court paperwork can put the copyright into depending on who the notary. The state usually. Usually you’ve got this you, when you go into a federal [01:36:00] court, you don’t have to have your stuff notarized by a state notary.

But what you really wanna do is get two living witnesses. You wanna be in the world of the living in your community. That’s why I asked you a long time ago where you treasured in your community as the one who, you know who has all this knowledge and wisdom and can be with people. You did the reiki, you know, like our friend John with, you know, who goes into the soup kitchen and does his chiropractic there.

It’s you know, you can’t measure that. Yeah. And the thing is, we’re getting away from this this stronghold over us, which is the fiat. And we’re the people are speaking and the people are maneuvering, and that’s a good thing. And basing it on the accelerated technologies that we need. And really we’re seeing it, like you look at the Airbnb, look at some of the.

The small businesses that are being funded without banks now and the cheaper travel, we’re gonna [01:37:00] see these things happen with the blockchain. And it’s, the crypto’s really interesting and it’s, if you’re not on board, you’re gonna miss out on a lot of things. And I suggest even in the short term to do it I’m doing things like collecting seeds.

I’m using that money to buy things of worth. I’ve been doing that for a long time. Things of survival, it’s the whole point of money isn’t just to hold onto it, it’s to actually acquire things. And the real currencies that they used to be are food, you know, food and seeds and like proper seed saving and fabric for clothing and all this kind of stuff.

And that’s really the point. But I think once we get past the crash, like that will come, I think that the cryptos will come back as you see. The thing is, see, our country’s been torn up. They’ve actually torn out the cable you know, they’ve got some other cables laid, but they’re making the last 10 yards into the wires, the wifi.

So once you’re in the [01:38:00] wifi, then you don’t have the privacy. And I mean, it, you could go IP address to IP address, but we are denied enforcement. The FBI won’t lift a finger and the people who are the victims become the blamed parties, you see?, the ones who are the most productive are the ones who are stolen from, that are creating the value of all of these.

technologies, that’s what is the individual buy and sell that creates the value of these crypto. So everybody owns that and no but and it’s his ability to reach his community. That’s why I’m saying it’s one thing to be knocked off Facebook for, you know, 30 days. I had all my little issues with with YouTube before I finally really squared off with them on some copyright, on some music.

And at one time our town board accused me and Felicia and, you know, Randy rest in peace of obscenity. And this [01:39:00] obscenity charge had a lot of significance for the holder of an FCC license., it wasn’t a formal accusation. One old curmudgeonly jackass on a town board, who shouldn’t be there anymore, named Jay Wink.

Basically he received like a letter from this performing arts group that. You know, there was nothing obscene, I wanna say that I I wanna put that straight. Basically, my, my very injured wife, white wife who was just days from her injury was having to use a walker. And she had to go to this meeting where we were forming a producer’s board, a producer’s board, because the telephone in the TV studio hadn’t been reconnected for months.

And that was also, I think, a spectrum thing because the town got a bundle where it’s internet, phone, and cable, all with spectrum. And so what happened is she was guided by some people in the performing arts group to walk [01:40:00] behind the audience. And this was at the very beginning of the play.

And there was no handicapped ramp directly to the TV studio.

And there still isn’t yeah and there still isn’t. And it’s been three years and the place was under construction starting, I think four years ago.

And so allegedly there was this letter that was given to this town board member. And so, you know, by a surprise attack, I’m sitting there and Randy’s sitting there and he accuses us of obscenity and all sorts of terrible things for like disrupting this play.

Not even an important play really. I mean, and it wasn’t any disruption. And this was all a big setup. And this is after a $2 million remodel, but they wouldn’t put in one little ramp so we could have our, they didn’t have rain gutters for two years over the steps under a shed roof that were the side entrances.

So there was always ice or wetness on those steps. But anyway. So then when [01:41:00] somebody writes into the paper saying that there was a letter with these seven signatures and a white bulb went off my head, so I FOIAed it because anything you hand to a town board member to take action means freedom of information.

You’re supposed to be able to obtain it through the Freedom of Information Act. And even a town clerk was g af after a month of my bar him about that g he, I’m surprised he, he’s supposed to respond in two weeks and he hasn’t responded and it’s over 30 days. And so then he says right at the town board meeting front of the other members and everybody that while he destroyed it, something that’s foible and it’s been foiled, he destroyed it obviously after it was foiled.

Yeah. So this is what we’re dealing with. Yeah. It sounds like some drama or some karma or something going on there.. I mean, we’ve, oh, it Killed Randy. I mean, that’s what she said. I was sitting here right where Felicia is talking about non-violent communication and [01:42:00] expressing your feelings and, you know, being in touch with your feelings so that you can find out what needs aren’t getting met.

And Randy just looked at me and she said, I will never get my needs met in that TV studio. And it made me so it, it really set me, it set me back, it made me so sad because I could see. The pain that, that this caused. And she used to tech for us, me and Joe a couple years ago, and we turned out some wonderful work that played down in Manhattan.

And I, and next week I’m gonna play out two of those older shows. So, because they’re still really relevant, the topics that were brought up. But now the question is to get everybody united because we have such problems ahead of us. The vaccinations that you bring out, we’ve got the obvious directed energy weapons that have been used in California, and then this mind control stuff because nobody’s gonna be really happy if [01:43:00] they’re not in freedom and we would like to be a community radio station that, that supports freedom and good knowledge and things like that.

Yeah, they’re it’s a very fascinating time and a dangerous time to be awake because that’s the, seems to be the goal on this earth is to continually suppress truth and suppress or kill people who are awake and or damage ’em or whatever they can do. And you just, you read the, through the annals of history and it’s just continued.

It’s just been on and on. Where this is the pattern, right? This is the fractal that we’re seeing return. And when is this story done? Like when are we done with this paradigm of this you know, good versus evil game that we’re playing here? Cause it’s, and I do see there’s more and more people though.

It’s becoming so glaringly obvious to a lot more people than ever before. [01:44:00] And I mean, at least ever before that I can identify in this era. But at the same time, and I was I did a little circumcision video and I did my birth story on YouTube just recently and just like saying, Hey, we need to stand up.

More of us need to open our mouths and say enough or say no, thank you. I will not contract. I don’t want this, and I’m gonna say no instead of just going along with it because I just wanna go home and watch TV or whatever. You know, I’m gonna actually fight for something here. I’m gonna by, by saying no, that’s my non-violent way of fighting, basically.

That’s right. You know, offer an acceptance. You I don’t accept. Yeah. So, but more people have to do it, you see, and yeah I vacillate in my days between hopefulness. Oh, well, right? That’s what are you gonna do? Like you can’t just magic wand at all and change everything. It’s gonna unfold the way it’s gonna unfold, and we do our levels of work that we’re capable of, right?

And continue that as long as [01:45:00] possible. And if that changes, then that’s what we have to adapt. We know the body’s really good at adapting.

That’s for sure.

Let’s learn from the body. Did you have some or We wouldn’t be here to this day. We would’ve long been gone. With what? All the wars and all the strifes that, that humanity’s been through and Wow.

Our entire thousands, 6,000 year history or whatever. It’s Right. I’m hopeful. Can you join us the week after next? I should be able to, yeah. Maybe we could talk about circumcision. Yep, we can. All right., that’s a fun topic Amandha, thank you for calling. Thank you for having me again, Paula.

Yeah. Okay. Bye-bye. Okay, bye bye. Thank you. So we’ll have our outro song, which is Joan Jett’s Roadrunner. I totally love this song. Relate to it. I am in love with the[01:46:00] [Outro music]