Healing with DMSO: Amandha Vollmer (ADV) & Tom Barnett

Amandha: So if you’re new to it, obviously there’s a long history. When I started doing research, I was actually shocked at the amount of research that had already been done. There’s so much science, so many clinical studies, and all kinds of information. It was overwhelming, and that’s what got me questioning: where is the knowledge of this substance that’s so well studied and understood? When I started reading about its actions on the body, I was so excited to find it and wanted to share it with people. DMSO is also a substance that needs to be handled carefully. In its pure form it can create redness and inflammation at the site, and some people can experience hives or other reactions because it opens the skin barrier so intensively and can interact with other substances. If we ship something containing DMSO and it breaks, companies may have a WHMIS protocol for dealing with the spill because they don’t want people handling it directly. They may even discard the entire package after a spill, so it is treated as a hazardous material in that context.

Amandha: Which it could be, if it came in contact with rust, for example, then you touched it on your skin and you had a blend of DMSO and rust. You would absorb some of that rust. So you don’t want to mix it with poisons and toxins because of the carrying capacity of DMSO on the fact that it goes through the skin. So I understand it, the danger of it, but they seem to use anything negative they can get their hands on as an excuse not to use it. If you’re careless with it, you can hurt yourself, and the attitude becomes that people can’t be trusted with the substance. Because they’re just going to, they’re going to run around and hurt themselves with it. So it’s like the lowest common denominator becomes the least-informed user and everybody has to have the same rules based on the least-informed person. It’s frustrating because if you don’t know how to drive or you don’t know how to function properly, no, we all have to go down to that level. It really slows down our progress. I think. So DMSO – dimethyl sulfoxide – comes from trees, mainly pine trees, and is extracted through a vacuum-distillation process. It’s not that easy to control and I’d like to make it at home, but I would have to have an outbuilding and proper ventilation.

Amandha: And it’s quite a big setup. DMSO is often obtained from the pulp and paper industry as a secondary or waste product. There are many names for the substance, and in French, Spanish, and other languages you may find different spellings and a lot of additional research. Germany, for example, has a great deal of DMSO literature. MSM sulfur is sometimes referred to as DMSO2 and is a cousin of DMSO. It has an extra oxygen, which makes it more crystalline in nature. MSM is a solid, whereas DMSO is a liquid. DMSO is an organic sulfur compound, and a Russian chemist first identified and characterized it in 1866. It sat around for quite a few years without much use until Robert Herschler, a chemist, began working with it in the 1950s and recognized some of its unusual properties, especially its ability to preserve tissue. Tissue removed from the body begins to deteriorate quickly, so researchers were looking at ways to cool or freeze it without causing additional damage.

Amandha: They found that with DMSO they could freeze tissue with less crystallization damage to the cells, helping keep the tissue intact. DMSO has a very interesting relationship with water and affects the way water crystallizes during freezing. That’s powerful when you need to preserve tissue, particularly in areas such as organ transplantation. Stanley Jacob was studying organ transplantation and solvents, and Herschler knew about Jacob’s work and suggested he look at DMSO. Jacob became very excited about it and began studying it rigorously. That’s where we start getting into some of the chemical-structure differences and the research that followed.

Amandha: So you can see here, you have an extra oxygen moiety on the end of the MSM. A lot of people get the characteristic DMSO breath or skin odor because when the substance is ingested, the oxygen is used up quite quickly. The methyl groups are taken off and used and you have a sulfur that’s often put through different chemical reactions. Toward tissue support and integrity. However, not all the sulfur is utilized and you will get this off-gassing of sulfur and sulfur. You can think of garlic, you can think of oysters. You can think of things of nature that are rotting that put off sulfur pools or ponds, or that sort of thing, your Springs. It’s a very distinctive smell and an interesting odor. In my book, I have a recipe with hydrogen peroxide as a spray, and I tested it a few times on the breath. And it will, after about three applications of the spray in the mouth, it will take down that fetid odor. At least you can kiss your husband or wife again, when they’re doing some sort of therapy with it and you don’t have to take it orally to get the breath.

Amandha: If you use it topically in a high enough dose, it will also start to emit through the mouth. But what you’re doing there is you’re adding another oxygen into any of the remaining DMSO. Or to the sulfur, pushing it more toward the MSM side rather than toward the compounds associated with that smell. And so the goal is get it over to the MSM, some of it so that you don’t stink as much. And I haven’t really tested on skin directly to see if it would work, but technically it could, the only thing is it will, it can bubble on the skin and make the skin kind of white. And that’s not really desirable, but MMS, which is chlorine dioxide solution or the precursor to it that also can add an oxygen into the system. And that could be used topically if people want to play around with different percentages of that. So as you were saying, Tom, about, what does it do? It does a lot and that’s, what’s so incredible about the substance and why it’s considered a panacea, one of those substances people call a miracle or whatever.

Amandha: Something miraculous usually carries a lot of different activity. I mentioned the transmembrane and transdermal action, and it penetrates the skin in three different ways. And usually with transdermal agents it’s one method or maybe two. But the DMSO is a fast penetrator because it actually can manipulate the skin layers in three different areas. So it’s a rapid penetration directly into the tissues. It is an analgesic. It is a nerve block agent. And so obviously if you’ve just hurt yourself in any way, you want to go to it pretty quickly. It will allow the body to tone down its own inflammatory process. The inflammation is there to heal the tissue and to bring agents in for repair. If you upregulate what’s happening at the site by using DMSO and increasing blood flow, you’re going to speed along the healing so much faster. And the inflammatory molecules and signaling don’t need to be so active. So it slows that whole process down while DMSO takes over part of the work. And that’s part of the anti-inflammatory aspect mentioned the bacteriostatic action, as well as fungal issues and other sorts of growth that can occur. It can be effective just to slow it down so the body can catch up with the work. It is also a diuretic. People say, ‘Oh, I’m taking my water pill.’

Amandha: You can also use it as a diuretic instead of a water pill. It’s mild enough that you’re not necessarily running to the toilet every few hours. The increase in tissue integrity is sulfur-based. We have sulfur cross-linkages between cells – almost as if the cells are holding hands – and that contributes to structural integrity. DMSO is also discussed as a muscle relaxant, so it can be useful around exercise and recovery. I often combine DMSO with magnesium oil; both are liquids, and the blend can be sprayed on topically. Magnesium oil is already transdermal, and some people find that it makes them itchy. Interestingly, when DMSO is added, the two products sometimes seem to reduce that itchiness for each other.

Amandha: For the most part, which was a bit of a bonus. So that would be great if you had uric acid or any kind of acid builds up in the tissues and you want to relax the muscles and deliver the magnesium to the area. The idea is to help the recovery of the muscle spindle. Muscle fibers have nerve conduction, and you want to reset the spindle if it’s tense. And that delivery of magnesium is what does that. And if you can get that right to the tissue source, you’re going to get relief. DMSO also has a very interesting relationship with collagen. So it does help with scar tissue. I have had a lot of feedback. I make a product called Face Lift in a Jar, and it’s a DMSO blend with a bunch of different oils that heal the skin. And it will reorganize collagen. It will dissolve damaged collagen, and reset the existing collagen structure, which is very powerful. There’s not a lot of things. I know that we’ll do that directly. Now, if someone has added collagen into their face with cosmetic procedures, or they have Botox as well that affects the collagen and the nerve DMSO may affect those materials, including the results of cosmetic procedures.

Amandha: I had one woman, she just got Botox and then she started using my face cream and her Botox was gone overnight, but she said her skin looks so much better. So she wasn’t sure if she was mad or not about it. The actions continue with connective tissue, fibrous proteins, and glycoproteins. So it has an interesting activity on different types of proteins, protein folding activities, enzymatic activities which kind of get deep. But really we have layers of different types of tissue and it can assist different types of healing. Good for hernias and these sorts of things. It also increases blood flow. So it will vasodilate, which means the vessel itself will open to allow more of the existing blood flow and it is an antagonist to platelet aggregation. So you definitely don’t want to be taking it. If you’re on anything that affects your clotting mechanism. Those are contraindications.

Amandha: However what’s interesting is it will assist the blood in normalizing itself. And so it will actually help to dissolve clots as well. Because that’s an aberration of the fibrous proteins. So it will actually help in a clotting situation by allowing things to dissolve and allowing blood flow to remove the waste, but it will help to normalize sticky blood that will form rouleaux, or stacking where they’ve lost their electromagnetic shielding, if you will. And it will reassist that by lending the correct oxygen molecules into the system. So that the blood can pick up oxygen properly. Again it’s relationship with water. It will rapidly flip that if you know the V shape of that molecule, it will hold hands with one water molecule and then it will switch off and hold another hand with another water molecule. And then it will drop that one and go to another and go to another. It can become like a motor, a water-based motor in the body. So it has a very fascinating relationship with water and which has been quite studied. And I think the delivery aspect could use more study. Delivery means it will assist the delivery of whatever nutrient or even drug or whatever you have in your system to the tissues.

Amandha: So if you are on any medications, you have to be aware that it may increase the delivery of the drug to the end tissue. So you may have to decrease your drug levels in order to compensate. This is also a way to come off of medications a bit more gently by, titrating, as I say, titrating slowly in your DMSO So while you come down slowly off the medication and then it also likes to handhold with all kinds of other substances. And that means it can take something through a tissue into another area. So if you’re trying to deliver something somewhere specific, you can use DMSO so as a door opener to get that medication or to get that herbal substance or nutrient substance into the end tissue that you’re desiring. Now it also affects ROS, reactive oxygen species in the body, which is discussed in relation to targeting tissue that is damaged and creating free radicals. It will sequester those and stop the chain reaction of destruction essentially like in the case of say cellulitis or something that’s spreading.

Amandha: And also it upregulates the liver function in the manner where it will create or assist the glutathione production, upregulating that. And glutathione is considered a master antioxidant. To simplify it, I think of it as a scrubber or grabber of wastes from the blood that helps deliver waste into the liver system and out of the body. The movement of materials is one of the more fascinating aspects of this substance, and it shocked me at the beginning. I had to stretch my imagination to really understand what was happening. I would get reports of people who are using DMSO and their pain increased or they were using it. I’ve manufactured eye drops, 20%, 40% DMSO solutions in saline with, or without vitamin C for different types of conditions. I would have someone say, oh, I started using them and now my eyesight is blurry. And what I realized was happening is that the DMSO was moving materials away or through to get them to either the lymphatic system or into the blood flow to be removed. And if you run out of this ‘hand-holding’ movement that DMSO is doing, the process may stop partway through.

Amandha: So if the DMSO has run its course and you’re now low on it, the material being moved may stop where it is. I saw this with a little boy who was having major gut issues and serious pain. When we started applying DMSO, the pain became worse at first, and the only thing I could think was that something substantial was moving. Of course, the first reaction is, ‘It hurts; I’m stopping.’ But in cases where someone is trying to work with deeper debris or scar tissue, I tell them to think carefully about the whole process and their overall support. I also emphasize magnesium and liver function. In that case, the boy later passed some unusual stool material, and his mother didn’t want to dig through it to see what it was. I was curious whether he had swallowed something, because there appeared to be something substantial in his gut.

Amandha: And in the case of the cataracts, the blurry vision cleared and, according to the report, the cataracts cleared. They just had to continue. They weren’t done the therapy. So that aspect is really important to keep in mind if you’re, if you have a lot of debris and you’re starting to move it and mobilize it, and you’re not sure why you’re experiencing certain symptoms. If you understand this, you’re not going to react in a fearful manner and stop the process. You’re going to do it a little more carefully perhaps or more well-rounded. You have to move it along and complete the process. We mentioned drug enhancement or reduction. The reduction part is some time depending on the drug it will actually denature some of the drug residues because it. It seems to dissolve wastes. And if the body is reacting to a drug or it has secondary effects, then the DMSO tends to denature that effect. And, in her view, reduce its effects so the body can get rid of it. So sometimes the drugs enhance and sometimes the drug activity is reduced. And you’d have to just look up your individual drug and see what the reactions of DMSO are to be confident.

Amandha: Ultimately you don’t want to be on any of these drugs, but there are circumstances where you’re stuck on a drug where it’s really hard to get off of. So just reading the chemistry or the basic package inserts of the pharmaceutical medication is important so that you understand it a little bit better. And what the potential side effects are. Now they’ve done this with chemo. They have a chemo, potentiation therapy with DMSO that they don’t use very often. It’s used in Germany and some other European settings. I know some European countries, they know about it and they’ll do it. And I’m not a supporter of chemo for all kinds of reasons. However people do it. And the benefit is that you get the healing of the DMSO part, but also you don’t need as much of a chemo drug to have the same action as what the desired outcome, which she describes here as suppression of the tumor. And that means less side effects, less, sickness from the chemo itself. And that, really should have been across the board. If people are going to go for chemo, then that should be how it goes, but there are specific therapies like that and then serum cholesterol. It will because cholesterol is actually an aspect of the inflammatory pathways and specifically related to cortisol or your stress response.

Amandha: And so it has a relationship with your with that particular stress response when it is calling for materials of repair or of inflammatory action. And so it will tone those down because the body now doesn’t need that cholesterol to do the work, to do the action DMSO steps in as the alternative.

Amandha: So as you see, we’re still on actions, there are a lot of them. It tends to have a very interesting effect on all kinds of cells, which are damaged. So a function or differentiation change of say leukemic cells or any kind of malignant cell. Oftentimes it can repair the cell enough that you will get differentiation and you will get it. So if it’s graded stage four and now you can, it can step back into stage three essentially because it’s cleaning up and cleaning out the debris, which is really all cancer cells are cancer. Cells are just severely damaged necrotic cells to the point where their own mitochondria will break. Their own DNA is breaking down. So you get all these particles in the cell, which means its fluidity is damaged and its chemical or electrical communication is damaged. But if you add the DMSO and it begins to upregulate those processes, then the cell can actually repair. And so that is very helpful in all sorts of cancers. Cryo protective, we talked about radioprotective qualities are very fascinating.

Amandha: It’s interesting because we know that electromagnetic fields can because DNA damage. At least what we’ve been able to deduce. And that goes for things like screening tests, scans, that sort of stuff. And if you want to protect the damage that the breaking off of DNA particles that create little micro nuclei that can lead to a walling off that can grow into a tumor and these sorts of things, then you can use it really as a preventative it in studies, it showed that it protected the DNA damage from quite high levels of electromagnetic fields in radio action on those cells, which is quite fascinating. Now, the only thing is, after the fact, the healing of the DNA after the damage is done is not obvious or not so severe, which means that you really want to use it more as prevention. So if you are going to be exposed, then you want to think of it ahead of time, rather than go all good exposed.

Amandha: Now come take DMSO after the fact, you won’t get the same rate of protective quality as you would, if you were doing it, prophylactically. Ischemic injury, this was the thing that I was shocked. Not really knowing that the heart and stroke foundation and the cancer society and all these fronts for big pharma when the innocent think they are good organizations, but really their money laundering pharmaceutical arms, and they have no interest in cures are really helping me or they’re, they just suck the money and the hope out of people. But, if they were real and they really cared and they were really interested in advanced research and knowledge, then they would put out a bulletin that would say, if you were having a stroke or a heart attack specifically Ischemic so meaning not vascular. Things were being blocked off from the inside or squeezed off from the inside. Like a myocardial infarction where you actually have clogging, you can use the DMSO in quite strong approach rubbing it over the chest, neck back of the, where the spinal cord is ingesting a 50% solution. You can actually stop the stroke from doing its damage. And heart attacks from killing you.

Amandha: It’s a big deal. And that would be their due diligence. If to me that was a litmus test, right there, if they really did care, they would tell people about this and they use to actually have it in hospitals, in the emerge for this thing way back in the seventies and eighties and stuff. And I don’t know where that went. I don’t even think that’s a thing anymore because every MD I’ve asked about it, they don’t know what the DMSO is at all. Free, radical scavenging, you mentioned an increasing oxygen delivery to the cells, which also is very important. If you’re having breathing difficulties or issues, getting oxygenation to tissues, you’re having tingling numbness or anything where you’re not getting blood flow say to the feet. Then you can use different therapies with add mixtures of percentages DMSO to your comfort, to up-regulate oxygen delivery. So this is just a summary with a little more detail. A general summary here, but now what fibers are involved and that sort of thing.

Amandha: So I’ll just touch on a few of these. For example, pain block is through the small C fibers and the non-myelinated nerve fibers. It won’t do as much to the myelinated nerves. Myelin filled nerves are a little bit different. There’s more fat involved. So that would be something. If you had a myelination a myelinated nerve, then you would want to use like, say another fat with it. So say I love mixing castor oil and DMSO it’s very potent. That would be a way to deliver using fat instead of a water as a delivery method, because the great thing about DMSO is it a universal solvent, which means it can dissolve all sorts of substances, whether they’re fat-based or whether they’re a water-based which is very rare. And why also Stanley Jacob was so excited because if you can dissolve all sorts of substances in this universal solvent and get it back out, take the DMSO out and get back what you put in without alteration. I don’t think there is another substance that can do that. They were using a lot of alcohols, but alcohol would not leave the end result intact completely.

Amandha: There will always be some kind of damage. So transporting molecules across cell membranes and like I said, the warning is on the skin should be clean. Know what you’re mixing it with. And don’t, I would not use it if on a bite or a sting. Because that’s what urine would be good for it for one that’s the right application. But two, you don’t want the body to blend with any venom or poison from a bite and bring it into the tissues deeper. You don’t want that. I know there have been some cases of stings from this crazy centipede creature, which I’m glad I don’t live in the world that has that, but large centipedes, that bite and sting. I had there was a woman I knew and she did it right away. She got the sting and she put DMSO on it. And I think she used it pure. And what happened is all of the venom or the poison actually spilled out of the opening. And so she, she had that experience. However, if you’re not at the ready and you’re right, before it even starts to sink in.

Amandha: I wouldn’t do that because it can actually make you absorb that, toxin faster. So just be aware of that. After the fact, after the process of elimination in the body, you want to heal the marking on the skin, then you can go ahead and apply it. We talked about clots. Oh yes. So cardiac contractility, it inhibits calcium. So it, and if you have too much calcium you in the nodes of the heart, it actually can work the heart harder. And I think it’s a combination of also relaxing blood vessels, as well as calcium desolving part that will help with heart health as well. There’s quite a few studies on that. Vaso-dilator. Yes. It’s getting nerdy, but the histamine release in the cells that they are seeing more than one action. So they think it’s because of prostaglandin inhibition. And it probably lessens the histamine reaction in the body for things like allergies. But that can go either way, because also if you start using DMSO and you have a lot of wastes and toxins in your system, and it starts to mobilize those histamines that have been sitting around histamines could circulate.

Amandha: And this is why I always say, if you’re going to do a regime, of any sort, we’re not talking about using DMSO for here and there and boo-boos and stuff I’m talking about. If you’re doing therapy, you want to detox, you want to heal tissues, you have a serious health concern. Then you want to always prep your terrain by, making sure your liver is working properly changing the food regime that you’re eating. Making sure you’re saturated and magnesium topically. You can take it into. You’re not going to absorb that much. She can do a little bit before bed, but if you’re not getting it topically through the skin, there’s no way you’re going to have enough. For the liver to handle all of the major chemical routes of elimination and do everything that you want to do because we hit our liver so hard. We’re talking hormone balancing or talking has deal with the stool and the colon. It has to deal with everything that you’re digesting. Talking about the routes of elimination. Okay. So what I’m saying is, before you really dive into something, because you like it just think about prep. If you’re going to paint your walls, are you just going to throw on the paint that you just paid a lot of money for?. NO, you got to patch the wall, sand that down, the patch put on some primer first.

Amandha: It’s the same thing with your body. If you want real success, then you need to look at the food. You’re eating that we stop the toxins from coming in think about the drugs you’re taking and why and how to get off them and begin a different type of lifestyle change. And then you can start to apply these things and you’re not going to overwork your liver systems and feel unwell. Which can happen if you’re starting to stir up all these histamines in your body, for example, or you’re starting to stir up all these wastes that are sitting in fat cells are sitting in your joints, or sitting in your brain, right? So it’s just smart to always do prep first and then go, I’m going to do this particular therapy and stimulate the lymphatic system as well, which I didn’t mention. And it increases interferon formation, which is a type of signaling protein, which means it’s, up-regulating communication in the cells and to the cells. So it’s helping signaling and then it will stimulate wound healing. I’ve told the story before of my finger that I slammed in my car door.

Amandha: I’m like a silly goose and I reacted by pulling it out because I thought it wasn’t quite caught. And I. And I actually, it was caught, I got it out by the pull, but it ripped the tissue. I broke the finger and it pulled my wrist and pulled my elbow and pulled my shoulder. So by entire arm was out. So I did a, quite a number and I was in such intense pain. I couldn’t think because that’s what happens. You go into a fight or flight situation. I get dizzy and I ran in the house and I immediately took a dose of Arnica montana, 30CH orally, followed by a Aconitum napellus 200CH, which is for shock. And once that dissolved, I could think again. And then I went DMSO and I took paper towels and I soaked it in 99.995%, DMSO. And I immediately wrapped it around my finger, just sopping. And I just sat down and just tried to do some slow breathing because the pain was so intense. And then I don’t know how much time elapsed, but not much. And I literally could feel the pain lift away from me as if it was a balloon, just leaving my body.

Amandha: And it was fine. And I continued on with what I was doing and I could tell it was broken because you could see it. I actually had to maneuver it a little. Back together. I don’t go to hospitals. So I’m like, I’m going to do it myself. I don’t care if I have to splint. And it actually completely healed within about a week and a half. And actually it was this hand because I know I have a residue and as it was this hand or this hand, and it’s this hand, there’s a tiny little blebs that if I really wanted to, I could finish off dissolving. And it was only because we have a periosteum, we have a skin around the bones called periosteum, and I probably broke it to the point where the bone marrow spilled out in to the, underneath the periosteum and left a little bit of a bump. It was a huge bubble before. But that for me was so powerful. I have people tell me that. They’ve twisted, their ankle normally takes months for it to heal. It heals within a couple of weeks, so it accelerates the healing process through all of these different combinations of communications and clearing waste so that you don’t have to suffer as long.

Amandha: Okay. So this is just an actions summary. It is a simple, small molecule with unusual properties. It has an exothermic reaction, which means whatever you mix it with. So say by some pure stuff, and you’re like, I want to make the magnesium oil. I want to blend it. And you do that. You’re going to notice it heats up very quickly. It gets almost too hot to touch. So just, it’s not a problem. It’s not going to blow up, just let it finish. It’s exothermic reaction. There’s a reaction between the DMSO and whatever you’ve added to it that will sort itself out. But in the sorting itself out heat is liberated and that’s where you get this exothermic hot reaction from it. So it’s perfectly normal. The hydroxyl radicals we were mentioning, so that’s the free-radical scavenging it neutralizes or punches them. And it also substitutes for water in the living cell, which is fascinating. So I’m saying, has this really interesting relationship with water, how it can mimic water or use water?

Amandha: And there’s no antioxidant in the world that, can substitute for water, like DMSO can. Antidote to allergic reactions we mentioned, I think this is just a summary and has lots of applications in medicine. The back of my book, I actually have a whole addendum that talks about all the different medical applications and uses of DMSO. So mainly it’s rim. Like for instance, interstitial cystitis, that was the first one I read about it. I said there has to be some FDA approval of something somewhere. This is such a potent substance. There has to be something. I found like a couple and that was one. And if they’re interstitial cystitis can be very painful and actually deadly and they do it by injection. So it’s like a surgical procedure and they, it uses an inflation device and they get it into the bladder and they inject the DMSO and it settles everything down, settles the inflammation down and they don’t know about it. And I had an interstitial cystitis. Not too long ago. And I said, so did you ask your doctor for the procedure that they is FDA approved that they can do?

Amandha: And she said he didn’t know anything about it. And I was like, okay so much for that in any way, we dealt with it with DMSO and other therapies and healed it without their injection. Dilution chart. This is basically similar to what I have in the book, which is very valuable because you need to know how to dilute DMSO to use it properly.

Amandha: 10% is 10% or lower when you read studies where they’ve done toxicity on cells using 10% or less. This is how they use, fraudulent science essentially to trick you to say that it’s dangerous or harmful. And I got a lot of people they’ll send me papers, oh, I read this from this journal and it’s a DMSO is toxic to the cells. And when I look and read the papers, they always play around with these low percentages. And they’re also using things in vitro. They’re not using things in Vivo. And as this is a total organism and it has communication networks. And if the cell is toxic and you add something into the cell and you’re now mobilizing toxins to be removed from the cell, pushes out and goes out through the liver, et cetera. That’s actually healing. If you take cells and you put them in a Petri dish and you poison them, and then you add 10% DMSO it’s going to start breaking up stuff. And it’s going to look like it makes us sell more toxic and where’s this toxicity going to go. It’s not going to go to your liver because it has no liver to connect to.

Amandha: And they do this magic trick where they make it sound like it’s dangerous. As well, they’ve done some studies with 10% or lower and said it causes neuro toxicity or other problems in the body. And it’s the same thing. It’s the same type of, word magic or trickery because they’re not using enough DMSO So for the actual completion of the action, it’s the same as I was mentioning with the mobilization of waste, if you’re part way there, or you run out of DMSO so then you can get a problem. You can get a clogging or something stuck and then yeah, that’s problem. Sure. But then that’s the end of the story for the study. It’s bad. It’s dangerous. See, here’s our study and that’s their justification, but they’re not using it properly. They’re not using scientific method properly either or proper controls to understand that’s just not the correct application of the DMSO in the right setting. So we don’t really use 10%, much only really in if you’re doing an MMS type of therapy.

Amandha: And I just did a video with someone from big MMS community. And we were talking a little bit about it. And essentially people find out about DMSO a lot of the times, once they find out about MMS, because they blend with it, they add DMSO into the solution to increase MMS, absorption, cross membranes, and they usually it’s 10% or lower added into the solution. 20% is where you can start with sensitive tissues, eyes, ears, great for pets. Great for children. And it’s a good testing percentage, meaning you’re not sure. So your first blush with DMSO, you don’t know how you’re going to respond. If you don’t even know how toxic you might be. It’s a good tester to see your responses. The 30% is considered the most anti-inflammatory percentage from the studies I read. It said that it’s a sweet spot for anti-inflammatory action because there’s so many. How do you choose one action over another action? If you’re really going for the anti-inflammatory, that’s your issue. Then 30% is where you want to stay at a 40% eyes, ears, facial skin and the next level of detox for those who are sensitive.

Amandha: That’s usually as comfortable as I want to go in the eye personally. And on the face, or sensitive skin, it can because rubor or redness. And so I like it at the 40% or even 30% for skin or anything above the neck. And then 50% is your maximum for ingestion and your maximum above the neck, unless you’re doing spot treatments, they’ll say you have something annoying on your face blemish, and you want to just put a small amount on the blemish itself. It will affect that tissue, but it won’t affect whole face. So that’s fine. 60% is what I usually recommend. If people have really sensitive skin to use topically and then 70% is the general use. That’s when I say put it all over your skin, you need a bunch of it, dilute it to 70%. Most people are comfortable with that. They’ll get maybe a little bit of itchiness, maybe a little bit of red skin or not. And, but not so intensive that they’re uncomfortable. 80% is pretty strong, but it will have a really great carrying capacity. So I do, I have designed a blend, an 80% DMSO blend with some Aloe and added nutrients.

Amandha: So between one and 3% of. Vitamins and nutrients can go in there and it’s a great carrier. And I have people using that even in the mouth for any kind of dental issue or abscess, that sort of thing so that you can use it quite strong. Again, more like a spot treatment, 90%, most commercially sold gels liquids are diluted to this percentage, which makes absolutely no sense to me because it can really burn at that juncture and be uncomfortable. They probably did it so that people wouldn’t want to use it again. And then 99.995, that’s your pure. And you can use it directly, but some people have no, they don’t feel any issue at all with it. And some will get really thickening, reddening skin. Some people will get hives and but all those wrinkles and things that will happen is temporary. Now, if you put a lot of dose of DMSO on your hands, like I would be working with, and I have it on my hands. And you want to wash your hands, right? The second you wash your hands and you have that much DMSO you’re going to look like you came out of a five-hour bath because your fingers are going to be all, you know how you look all crinkled like a newborn baby in the bath.

Amandha: And that can happen because you’ve just now introduced water with DMSO and it goes, Hey water, come on. Let’s go in. Let’s soak right into your tissues. So it’s basically like you just sat in the bath for hours and hours. That’s the effect. And it will go away. Sometimes it takes a couple of days for that. If you have DMSO on your hands, I just recommend taking paper towel or cotton rag and just wiping off as much as you can. That’s the way to remove it. If where you’ve done a saturation treatment, where there’s quite a bit on your body, there’s too much you got to get dressed. You got to go somewhere, don’t wash it, just take a dry rag and just rub it off and get the rest of it off that way. Rather than in the water and going, oh my Lord, what have I done? So per safety considerations with all things, we must be wise. We must have used things properly. Always do a test patch with anything you buy any face cream, you buy a new lotion, you buy a new soap test patch, you don’t really know how you’re going to respond to things.

Amandha: Start with a low dose work up to a higher dose. Don’t just jump in. And say, I’m going to go, I’m going to go all the way with this. And people say, they’re allergic you can’t, you cannot be allergic to DMSO. You can’t be allergic to foundational substances of your body ever. That’s nonsense. You can react to something because of what it’s doing to you, right? If it’s liberating something now your body’s allergically reacting to the liberation material. Absolutely. You can have a histamine response to that, but it’s not the DMSO’s fault. It’s not DMSO directly causing any of that. It’s all indirect. So if you do have allergic types of reactions, when you’re using DMSO, don’t blame, the DMSO has nothing to do with the sulfur it’s everything to do with what is liberating. And if you did that preliminary prep work first so that you don’t fall into this problem it does react to a lot of materials. You have to be careful plastics, rubber, silicone metals, I’ve tested all the substances If you’re not sure of the material and you’re okay with, if you have an extra thing, like if you have gloves, you not sure.

Amandha: Put some DMSO on a glove and put it in a container and wait for a few hours and see if it breaks apart. Or if it dissolves it, usually you do a 24-hour test on a substance to see if it will react. And then if you wake up in the morning and you’ve got divots in your material from the DMSO it’s dissolving and it’s reacting to it and you don’t use that I’ve tested different types of plastics, like PETE it’s totally inner. It does not react at all to DMSO the softer plastics, the phones, all that, it’s a really good solvent, so it will dissolve all of that into itself. So you want to watch out for that alcohol. Yeah there’s a lot of stories with alcohol, but the main thing is just, don’t just don’t mix because it will increase your potency of the alcohol. And if you’re not careful and you it’s Christmas or something, and you’re inviting you could put yourself into alcohol poisoning way quick, because what happens is DMSO reduces the an enzyme and aldolase that is there in your liver to break down alcohol and it down-regulates it.

Amandha: The concern with alcohol is that it may circulate longer and not be detoxified as quickly. I remember there being a note about cognac and the DMSO odor. Cognac may reduce the characteristic smell, but of course it’s still alcohol, so that creates a different problem. In practical terms, I would not consider that a useful trade-off. Some of the effects people can experience with DMSO include rubor or redness, thickened or wrinkled skin, hives, burning, tingling, and itching; those effects usually subside. I also wanted to mention temporal arteritis. I came across a study using 10% DMSO in the eyes that reported temporal arteritis, and the conclusion was that DMSO was dangerous because of that result. The way I interpreted it was that material was being mobilized from the eye toward the blood supply and, if the process was incomplete, it could become congested in that area.

Amandha: Waste out, and it goes, it’s going to take it to the blood supply so that the blood supply can take the waste away. If you don’t have enough DMSO it’s like I said, it’s going to get stuck somewhere so it can create what’s called temporal arteritis. It’s a clogging in that area and you bulge And so I had one woman develop this and freak out and then find a study and I had to walk her through it and calm her down and encourage her to continue the use of DMSO that she would clear that out, which is the end result. So be careful yeah.

Amandha: These are. Some of the studies that, if you’re interested, if you really are passionate about it and you want to learn more these are just some resources that you can go to that you can find easily online. And we’ll have tons and tons of the first studies that earlier studies, these are two conferences that were done on DMSO. Man, I miss the good old days. I would love to attend a DMSO conference with my colleagues. That’d be lovely. And what would happen is all of these scientists across the world would gather the gathered in New York and they presented all their research to each other. That must’ve been, I would love to have been there and they actually produced a book from this first seminar. And I have it, I bought it. It was so expensive, and it was so old, it’s like falling apart for when I was doing my research on writing the book. But it was so exciting, it was just, they were excited. You could feel that it was just so fresh and new., and it was just uncharted territory.

Amandha: And then they did another conference in 82. Healing with DMSO is my book. And in the end notes, I have a hundred and seven scientific resources, and those can lead to all kinds of sheets of other studies as well. Oh yeah. The FDA has been the main thorn in the side and there’s a book that I list in my end notes. And it’s a story it’s actually written almost like a fiction, but it’s not. Of the emotional stuff going on back then and they, and the people who were involved in their character and who these agents were and how it all went down, how they shut down all the research back then and how the FDA did all this nasty business to stop them and to send agents and raid them and just do nasty things to, all the researchers in the United States who were looking at the substance. And it happened to be on the heels of the thalidomide scandal, right? So you have the FDA pretty much saying yeah, I guess it’s fine for pregnant women go for it. And having to backtrack really quickly when they started to realize that the babies were being born with flipper hands and feet.

Amandha: Whoops. And so what happened is that political environment was really stringent from that experience. And they weren’t willing to experiment with another miracle drug because they just came out of miracle drug called thalidomide that burned them bad. So in part, they were reacting to that particular situation and lopping it on and projecting it onto DMSO rather than actually read the studies and realize how safe it was. So it really slowed the awareness of DMSO even back in the day and these are more studies different types of cancers. They’ve done DMSO with melanoma, colon cancer, leukemia, lung cancer, ovarian cancer, lymphoma. There are two published human intravenous DMSO cancer studies, Dr. Wong and his colleagues. One was done in prostate and the other for gallbladder bile duct cancer successfully I.V DMSO is used. We don’t really get into that much IV or injection, but you can use it like that. And they have, and they can reverse cerebral edema intracranial hypertension. They don’t have to use mannitol or dexamethasone, they can, could just use DMSO in saline instead to reverse the serious concern.

Amandha: They studied mice and noticed these broken fibers in the urine and realized that in a condition called amyloidosis, that the DMSO was breaking down. Remember I mentioned about proteins and glycoproteins and its reaction to it. If these deposits in the cells these amyloids causes cells to stiffen up are a problem. Then you inject the DMSO into the situation and actually breaks them down and removes them. They would find the fibers in the urine and most of them would be in the stool. And we see a misfolding of amyloid beta proteins from chronic inflammatory states. So this is, we see this in Alzheimer’s, arthritis and diabetes, and a lot of these conditions can be related to improper tissue folding and denaturing of the existing proteins from chronic inflammation and then Alzheimer’s, it’s really hot as far as helping blood flow to the brain and detoxification of the brain, which is where you get the Alzheimer’s issues. And results were seen as early as three months with best outcomes after six months of use.

Amandha: There are also studies on arthritis and dementia. For the particular protocol I was discussing, I talked about higher topical concentrations applied to the joints multiple times a day, along with internal use in a beverage. MSM, DMSO’s cousin, can also be useful. If someone can’t tolerate the characteristic smell of DMSO, MSM may be an option for some internal applications, although it doesn’t have exactly the same effect. You’re still getting sulfur-related and antioxidant support. I’ve also worked with capsaicin or cayenne pepper in topical preparations and discussed glucosamine internally. I had just bought powdered glucosamine to experiment with at the time of this interview, even though I don’t personally have joint problems.

Amandha: And these are studies head injuries. There are many passionate doctors out there that speak like this and they say, we need DMSO in the fields. If we’re doing sports, any kind of sport, you want to talk, rugby, want to talk football, you want to talk anything especially fights, like we’re, you’re getting into sports that are really more aggressive. It should be at the sport event. It should be there and you apply it to the forehead and head neck after every game, every workout. So they’re coming off the field and they’re getting there. They’re getting their face washed and the sweat removed because you don’t want to put DMSO on sweats. Sweat is getting rid of wastes. You want to clean off the sweat first and stop sweating first, wash that away and then apply the DMSO right away. And if there’s a true head injury you give slow drip, intravenous, and the medic should know how to do it. And if they just did this, they would prevent all the post-concussion syndromes.

Amandha: There would be no post-concussion syndrome problem. This is the thing, this is what blows my mind. We have this and where is it? I know that sports med people know, about DMSO, that’s how I first learned about it. And I know that horse races, they use it on the horses, so they recover quick, same thing, but it’s ridiculous. You have so many people suffering and this is really easy fix. And you’d have an advantage as a team. Why wouldn’t you do it? Why wouldn’t the coach do it? Why wouldn’t they have it as a standard we need to get there with these things. So five grams per one kilogram of body weight have been given over 24-hour period with no toxic side effects. So you start with the first 24-hours. And after that you reduce it to two to three grams per kilogram, body weight per day. And so you do the first treatment rapid, get going, and then slow it down and stagger it a little bit more. But the sooner you get it in them, the faster the recovery, this is like subdural hematomas territory here, which can kill you.

Amandha: You can give your tissue integrity from broken vessels fast. So that’s reactive oxygen species, that’s ROS, sulfur repair, oxygen delivery, waste removal. So you get blood flow you get clot prevention, the edema. So swelling goes down. Pain goes down, nerve damage is recoverable quickly, excess blood loss, hematoma. You don’t form them. Excess water waste will come up. Look at, these, I just pick those out of all the actions to show this is what happens in injury. These things happen in this injury, all of these things and DMSO can solve all of those things. You only need the one thing, right? You might have to stop bleeding actively with a styptic or something granted!

Amandha: But other than that, this should be used. And especially in kids sports. So parents know, if the child gets knocked out, you apply the DMSO, straight away, bring it with you to the field. I had a woman who was avid jogger and she came back and she told me, she came back from a jog, but DMSO on, and she had a whole reaction. She broke out whatever. And that’s when I told her, I said, you just absorbed all these wastes from your body. So that’s why just be aware if you’re actively sweating and you’re putting out waste, you don’t want to blend the DMSO with the waste from your own body and put it back into your system. The substance is very versatile and very helpful. I haven’t had anything really severely negative from it from all these years, of people trying different things and letting me know, means not going to knock you out dead cold. It’s not like taking some of their pharmaceuticals for goodness sake that can lead you down that path. So we have something really safe, really, truly safe and truly effective for real. And we don’t even need to say that. We just need to show that. So there you go. And thank you.

Tom: So we’ve got quite a few questions coming through. We’re not going to get through them all, but I’ve gone through and just scanned, I think some more pertinent ones. Just before we go through that, I just had a thought come through, how, like you can use a certain percentage. I think you said 60% for helping bring something in and utilize it. In theory, if somebody has got nutrient deficiencies because their body is not utilizing food properly, could you take a very small amount internally with meals to help bring the absorption of the nutrients into the body?

Amandha: Absolutely. And you can actually feed the body through the skin. If you really have an issue where you have to fast the body, because the guts so bad that you’re not absorbing anything really or much, or it’s just causing inflammatory responses and gas and bloating and that sort of thing, you need to fast, but you’re still in a nutritionally deficient state. Then you can actually use blend it topically with the nutrients at that percentage between 60 and 80% and carry it into the skin. As long as the molecule, the carrying molecule is not too large. So it does have a limit to the weight in which the molecular weight you can carry, you know but they did an experiment on a child who had a torsion of his guts for quite a while. Got missed just like pain, but they just thought it was upset stomach. And all his internal organs were necrotic and they had to remove them. They had to remove the stomach, most of his intestinal tract. So he wasn’t able to absorb anything. And he was so lethargic, the tube wasn’t working. And so they fed him with DMSO and nutrients put together on the skin topically. And then I think they moved to IV after that. But just transdermally, he survived with getting the nutrients that way.

Tom: What ratio would you use? Like how much DMSO are you talking drops to? Let’s say you blended eggs and something. So you’ve got like a mixture of raw food. For example, you put that on your skin, but it’s like a, it’s like a cup worth a few answers or something, or announced not, I don’t know how you told me answers, but an answer is 30 meals. I think. So I told him like eight ounces maybe. And then how many drops or milliliters or whatever of DMSO would you add to that? 250 milliliters of blended food to absorb into the skin?

Amandha: Usually you don’t use the food per se because the molecules are too large anyway, and you would just waste a lot of your DMSO. How you would go as the other way, you’d have your DMSO solution that you have in a bowl, for example. And then if you can get your individual nutrients in powdered or liquid form. So say iodine, a B vitamin, vitamin C, magnesium, selenium, whatever. And then you add that in between and you can go pretty high. You could play with percentages, but I’ve only done on the lower side. So between 1 and 2%; I think I’ve gone as high as 5% and allow the body to decide how much it’s going to utilize. So if you do a continual application of those percentages, then it will be enough for the body to use, because again, you’re upregulating delivery or upregulating utilization and tissues. Because when you eat, you have to go through the digestive process, the breakdown process, the decision-making process, and that’s just one phase of it then has to go pass through other tissues, be handed off to other molecules and then has to get to the end tissue or wherever it’s headed for whatever purpose.

Amandha: And then it has to be utilized there too. So there’s many steps along the metabolic pathway. And what you’re doing with the DMSO is you’re ensuring absorption and upregulating delivery as well. And so you don’t need to use as much because you’re, you don’t have to flood the systems. A lot of it is just access and, or it doesn’t get used. So you can go with less percentages. Yeah.

Tom: Yeah, I’ve done it with magnesium. It’s worked really well. We’ve just, we’ve got a few people asking for good sources in Australia. I guess you probably don’t know off hand, but we’ll sort that out and we’ll put it up on the platform unless you do know, Amandha.

Amandha: I forget the name. Someone did tell me; I have a couple of sources.

Tom: Yeah. I get it from people at make it locally. So I’ll talk to them and if they can make it in enough supplies or they have enough supplies, I’ll just put it on the platform because I get it from a guy around here. This question says, my doctor gave me DMSO back in 2008 due to skin surgery. It doesn’t have an expiration and I never used it. They kept it all these years. Does that mean it’s still good? So in other words, how long does DMSO last?

Amandha: It will denature. It will, without any other influence. So say it’s just in a glass bottle cap tight, no air. The molecular structure will slowly degrade. So what’ll happen is when you open the bottle, you might have some DMSO still in there and some broken down. And so you won’t know what percentage you’re really working with. So that’s the main trouble, especially if you had it for a long time, you don’t really know your starting percentage now, could be 80% or whatever, and you’re trying to dilute it. And you’re going to, you’re not going to know unless you have a way of testing it in a lab, see it’s percentage, right? Which must people don’t have, it’s guesswork. You might get an odor. Now it’s generally odorless in its pure form. And when it starts to mix with water, you get the sulfur smell. So you can give it a sniff test that can give you an idea and then no heat, no light. If it’s repeatedly freezing and thawing and freezing the pine, like over years, I would say that could denature some of the chemical theoretically, and then of course it loves water, wants water, it’s hydrophilic, and it will pull water from the atmosphere, from the air into itself.

Amandha: If you leave an open beaker of DMSO on the counter, you’ve diluted at 10% by the next morning, because it’s just grabbing the humidity out of the air.

Tom: It’s readily available. If you had a bottle left for eight years, I’d probably just get another one.

Amandha: Yeah. That old probably just be worth to properly dispose of it. And can’t put it down in your sinks as well. So be careful if you do have something like that to dispose of it properly, diluting it with water considerably before disposing of it. Don’t just pour it raw down the sink.

Tom: And can you use DMSO and do a urine therapy at the same time?

Amandha: Oh, yeah, absolutely. They’re buddies for sure, because think of urine is actually distilled water it’s distilled with a small percentage of information 2.5% urea, some stem cells. And you can, potentize your urine with the DMSO, if you really want to, especially for topical for skin blemishes wounds, all that they’re definitely great mixtures. Yeah.

Tom: Awesome. And if DMSO can dissolve clots, could it be used for people who’ve had a clot shot?

Amandha: Yes. In that discussion I suggested DMSO as one part of a broader approach, including topical and internal use, supporting liver function, and maintaining magnesium levels. I also did a video called Detoxing from the Thing where I discussed some of the nutrients and detox approaches I would consider. We really don’t know all of the long-term effects involved, so some of this remains guesswork. The body may accept or store materials in ways we don’t fully understand, and we may not know the complete picture for a long time.

Tom: Yeah. Yeah. But I can’t see any harm in using it anyway. This next one’s essentially about someone who had an injury four weeks ago. They want to know if the analgesic effect will be effective now off the four weeks, as opposed to needing to apply immediately.

Amandha: If it’s an injury, if you haven’t and you’re still suffering want to use it, there was a man who had a story, a sad story where he had an accident and he was paralyzed from the waist down. He was in a wheelchair. I think it was actually, was it an injury or a stroke? I can’t remember. Now. I think it was a stroke but he couldn’t walk and his friend kept telling him, you got to try this DMSO, man. You really do. It’s it’s the thing for stroke and the man was very obstinate. And he said, I’m not using that quackery and blah, blah, blah. And was just grumbly about. And came 10 years down the road or something. And he finally was in pain from sitting. So he had other issues and his friend again, was like, come on, man. Use the damn stuff. So he did. And he was able, now this is 10 years of an injury. He was able to use DMSO to walk again and to, or not walk fully to walk with aid, but he could move again. And he regretted, he had a regret story that he wished he did it when his friend told him to do it. He felt he would have free mobility if he had just listened to his friend on that. But even so he was able to get somewhat mobile and get out of pain. So you can still use it at any stage. It’s just ideal to use it right away, because it’s less suffering.

Tom: Finally is it best to wait on DMSO if you have histamine / MCAS / MTHFR issues, trying to detox with MMS and coffee enemas, then I’m finding it hard to keep up on nutrition as I’ve switched to green juicing,

Amandha: With this type of detoxification pathway I have actually an article on my Yummy.Doctor Blog. So, if you type in “MTHFR”, I can’t remember it’s a blogger video or both definitely did a video. And I talk about there’s three main things that I usually have the individual do first to make sure that, to compensate for that before going into other healing detoxes and that sort of thing, not to say that the coffee enemas are bad, it will help clean the blood. So definitely if you have MTHFR variant, you want to clean the blood, the coffee enemas and distilled water and that sort of stuff, but B12, methylfolate – so methylcobalamin, methylfolate, and TMG, which is trimethylglycine that trifecta should ideally be put in the system first and use that enough to get those systems rolling and tagging again is a methalate things to tell the body what’s what, and you will feel tons better when you do this and plus your magnesium, of course, always. If you’re using something like MMS, which gives oxygen and then you’re using an antioxidant like DMSO, usually what’s told, is don’t do the same time. However, one of the things I didn’t mention about DMSO is that DMSO can go either way.

Amandha: So it can be antioxidant, or it can act as a pro-oxidant specifically in terms of cells helping themselves to break down that are too far gone. So in assisting the apoptotic mechanism to add lend the oxygen to that system so that it denatures and degrades a damaged cell that can’t come back. So it actually can go either way, but I would still, if you’re doing MMS, I would still either add it into the MMS to take directly so that you have maximum absorption or if you’re doing as different therapies, about an hour apart of each, so that you’re not mixing antioxidant oxygen.

Tom: And someone’s asked as well, if you’ve got, say, a blockage such as earwax, would DMSO help remove it or make it absorb back into the body?

Amandha: Yeah. Waxes are a bit different. There will be a limit to how much can be absorbed or carried by the DMSO. I usually suggest I make a garlic mullen Vitamin E ear oil for that sort of thing. I would work with oils, and so if you’re really having earwax issue, I would do something like that first and try to soften the oils, warm the oils, and get as much out first with the olive oil garlic approach. And then for the residual you could start to use the, say a 30% or 20% ear drop to dry it out. A little thing is with the DMSO and the ears, because you don’t want to go too hard with it because it’s sensitive tissues, delicate tissue, and it absorbs through, and you don’t want to have too much inflammation or thickness of that particular skin or affect the tympanic membrane too much. So you can rub it on the back here of the, behind the ear, and encourage that to drain properly and to let the body decide how much it wants to use. Instead of in the ear directly,

Tom: We’ll just do one more question because we’ve run out of time, but this one’s kind of a, I think the one that says my spouse couldn’t even rub DMSO with their hands on my skin without having extreme liver pain. We plan many liver flushes in the future, but is that sort of something that you’ve come across where they, the reaction to it is so intense just from rubbing it because the liver is not functioning well,

Amandha: Yeah, that’s exactly. If you start getting what he had, he’s either got fatty liver or he, his phase-two liver enzyme system is downregulated. And you immediately just from touching the skin from, in the skin within five to 10 minutes, that DMSO is in every tissue of the body. It’s everywhere. The studies they did on that was it’s rapidly dancing through the body and it goes into every single tissue including the brain. So it’s, then it’s doing its job is doing a work of releasing waste. And now your upregulating waste, that is a clear indication that individual has to do the prep work. And if you do want to help someone apply it, if you purchase a natural fiber bristle brush or if you have a stick and you want to tie on some unbleached cotton, say onto the end, you can dip and apply it like with any of those two implements. That’s how Stanley Jacob used to do it. He used to have a really fat, natural-hair brush, like a painter’s brush and that’s what he would use to apply it onto someone else because he was doing it all day long. So he obviously can’t keep putting on his hands all day long. So for now, if he if the partner needs some help that way, then just invest in a really good bristle brush.

Amandha: Ideally that’s hand-sewn in, it doesn’t have that metal fit around it. You can find a lot of these types of brushes around if you look, and that would be the best way to apply it without you absorbing it or getting the dose.

Tom: Awesome. For those who haven’t got it, I highly recommend Amandha’s book Healing with DMSO. Is it available just through Yummy.Doctor, or are there other places to get it?

Amandha: You can get it through YumNaturals. So yumnaturals.store I have it there. I have it at healingwithdmso.com. So those are two of my websites and it’s everywhere at every major bookseller, including Amazon and all the different ones. So they all carry it. Sometimes Amazon gets mad at me and tells people they can’t have it. They flip flop that’s my publisher’s responsibility, not mine. And there’s a Kindle e-book format as well. It’s not a standalone e-book; it’s a Kindle version of it as well. And it’s in many languages. It’s in German and French and I believe Spanish. So there’s a lot of translations of it all.

Tom: Yeah, it is a really good book. And for those that have more in-depth questions, it’s just, you go to guide for that. It’s just, it’s highly recommended just to purchase the book and you’ve always got it on hand and it’s a, yeah, that’ll be your compendium of information. And for those that haven’t followed Amandha, you’re also on telegram, right? Because I follow you on telegram. And I thought it was funny. PayPal would catch sending me that snakes pacing in the water documentary. And I was like, don’t send me that stuff. I just, and then I saw that you’d said similar stuff to my house. It was funny that a few people were laughing at it. May you? And I think if you out as a laughing and everyone else oh my God, like you’ve got to watch these thing. It’s the answer to everything. And I’m like, oh, come on.

Amandha: I know you’re always, you always have the same. You have a similar barometer as me. You can smell BS miles off and you’re like, no, you don’t even have to watch it and you can smell it, my gut says, no, I’ll watch it if I need to. I wasn’t going to, but because of the insanity of it now I was pulled into it to address it. And I was a bit disgruntled about that, but I’ll do it, but yeah, there’s a lot, we have to practice discernment in all things. And I guess these are our experiences for practicing. Yeah.

Tom: Yeah, definitely. Thanks again very much for your time. Is there anything else that you’d like to just let people know about or where to find you or anything that we haven’t.

Amandha: I do the DMSO products that I have designed are at a separate website they’re at DMSO.store. That’s all you need to put in.store. However, there’s been a worldwide DMSO shortage. We don’t really understand why exactly I’m hoping it’s not my fault for increasing demand, but we’re on delay still. With three or four weeks out before we get ours and we’ve been waiting months and

Tom: Yeah, someone put in the chat here. There’s a place in Queensland. I’ll just say where it came up. Miracle products.shop. I’ll just click on it and see what you want. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. So that’s only Australia though, I imagine. Yeah. Okay.

Amandha: Cool. Yeah. It’s been frustrating, not being able to get it and not being able to find some local who can supply it as well. But it’s making me think differently about actually investing in my own manufacturing. At some point, because I never want to, I know, it’s too vital. It shouldn’t be short. It shouldn’t be a shortage when Canada is full of trees, especially

Tom: Pine trees. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there’s a, there’s actually a guy likely he has. He does, he’s a horse acupuncturist and he uses DMSO with horses a lot when they have injuries. And he was saying that he’s actually made some himself as well. So you need it like a distilling thing and he, you just the pine and then the distilling and then whatever else I know he did explain the thing. And he said, he’d like to do it on a grand scale. We have a lot of pine trees in Australia as well. They’re not native, but we have a lot. And yeah, so it’s definitely possible. And It’s just that just made me think. Maybe I should go to track that guy down again. And safety. Actually, I would love to

Amandha: Know if you can get his starting document on the process, because that’s where I’ve hit a wall. I haven’t been able to find the actual manufacturing guide. I want to know exactly starting material amounts. I want the recipe, I’m looking for the recipe because I’ll make it myself,

Tom: Right? Yeah. They might have it. I’ll connect. You I’ll talk to him today. Actually. I’ll put a note to myself to give him a call and then I’ll connect you guys. If he’s got that.

Amandha: Oh, that’d be amazing. I would love it. Because I have a chemistry background and I’m not afraid of the occasional explosion, but I, if I have to build an outbuilding for it or starting an industry here, I’ll do it. I’ll do it in the private too, because a lot of the issues are they’re public domain. Crossing borders Health Canada regulations, all this kind of paperwork, red tape, and you know what they’re doing with that. So we need a work around and if many distillers do it as well, then we don’t have that problem anymore. Yeah, that’s right.

Tom: Yeah. For those who didn’t know, Amandha is also very adept with the whole public-private area for people interested in that. And if anyone doesn’t follow Amandha yet, just go with following because she’s across a lot of the stuff that we cover on the platform here.

Amandha: Awesome. Yep. Very important to learn about that. Controlling your person, getting away from contracts with public contract. Working with local currencies or making your own local currencies, local trade barter, all those kinds of systems. And just once you control your person, you stop registering to vote for monkeys on parade. Then we can take the people who want to be politicians, instead of sending them off to the Gulag of a broken system, we can invite them to help us govern ourselves, right? As someone who likes politics and finding out people’s needs and helping to provide the needs, which is what a politician supposed to do, we can repurpose their skills, just like we’re taking all the nurses and doctors that are exiting the system and rehabilitating them like Andy, Kaufman’s doing. True Medicine University is rehabilitating old MDs that won’t take the shot that are out of a job and making them into holistic practitioners. So it’s the same thing with all of these agencies that are kicking out the people who are awake and they have nowhere to go, or they’re trying to fight a system.

Amandha: That’s a dragon. That’s never going to let go until it just dissolves in on itself. So question them, the here’s the new way. Here’s how we do things in the private. We have town hall meetings again, and we’re going to make decisions as a group and make agreements with each other and all of that. So I think it’s exciting. I just want more people to think like that a little bit. Then we can get rolling with a little more services. We don’t have to be so afraid where they hold all the cards on our freedoms.

Tom: Absolutely, Amandha. That was great. Dave, did you want to say anything, or are you all good?

Dave: That was awesome. So I didn’t realize you were so knowledgeable in the private stuff as well, Amandha, which is even more exciting. That’s awesome. I would like to get some more information on the lymphomas stuff for me personally, but I think I’ll just purchase your book and have a read through there, like everyone else. So thank you so much.

Amandha: The thing for lymphoma – I was going to make a video just on this. If you’re okay with needles, Gaston Naessens developed a therapy called 714-X, and I tried the therapy on myself for quite a few months just to see what it was like. In this discussion I described it as helping liquefy the lymphatic system. My thought was that if you’re working with that kind of lymphatic approach and then upregulate it with DMSO, you may be able to support movement through the lymphatic system. I described DMSO as a potential adjunct to 714-X. At the time, the product was associated with CERBE in Quebec. The unusual part was that people could order it in many places around the world without being a doctor, but not easily in Canada. I had a friend in the United States purchase it for me and repackage it differently. We’ve run into similar cross-border issues with other products as well.

Amandha: It’s what they’re doing. It’s Health Canada. They’re tyrants. They’ve shut down anything and everything. So they’ve, they did him in pretty good. They try to do me in quite well. That’s where I’m like, I’m moving into the private, I’m done with them. No, thank you. I don’t need to be demonized for helping people and I’m not a criminal, I’m not doing things that are harmful and they’re trying to, nitty gritty pick on me to just shut me down. It’s embarrassing and they did the same. They tried the same with Ian as well. Yeah. Thank you so much. I’m definitely going to look up that information as

Tom: Well.

Amandha: Great. Awesome. Thank you for this. This was wonderful. And I could already feel the influx of the Telegram group. Just that group is I find Telegram really challenging to manage. So just read the rules first and we have all kinds of things for spam and we have trigger words that will get you banned. So just realize that learn before you really keep go posting. Yeah, I wish there was something a little easier than telegram even at this point, but we’ll get there.

Tom: Maybe you can jump on our platform, so lots of good stuff happening there,

Amandha: Cool. Okay. I’ll look into that. Awesome. Living free.

Tom: Thank you so much

Amandha: Again, and thank you everyone for joining. This is great.